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sooner_sadiq
10-05-2005, 22:01
hello everyone,
as me and some friends where rolling together in class we came on this discussion on how one would enter in a fight with bjj. bjj is a secondary art for me so we were completely at odds on this topic. in the school where i train the majority of the training begins on our knees and we go from there. also i originally came from a wrestling background and have found that most of the guys are not as proficient as i am with takedowns. with all this in mind how do u guys implement your specialty in a fight? how do u get to where ur the best at against a striker? just curious and welcome all comments.
For me, having some MMA and sport JJ experience, It depends on my opponent and how I read him. If he's crouching low, looking for shoots, scratch that off my list. If he's tugging on my collars (neck) and arms looking for throws, scratch that. If he's head hunting with blows or working the legs with kicks- scratch that and conversely- head hunters fall for shoots, clinchers fall for throws, keep the shooters up with blows and stuff their shoots making them go toe to toe....It depends and helps emphasize the importance of cross training and the beauty of mixed martial arts. Its so hard to keep all of your arsenal polished though....thats why theyre pro and do it for a living I guess.
Keith
My BJJ training is also as a secondary art.
For me it's only an option if I wind up on the ground.
Tony Dismukes
10-07-2005, 08:19
My wrestling takedowns are pretty weak, so in a tournament setting I'll try for judo throws, since I have at least some mediocre skills there. (I've got long legs, so sasae ashi, osoto-gari, and harai goshi are good for me.) In MMA-style sparring, I'll focus on my striking and clinching and only go for a takedown if they give it to me in the process of defending against my strikes. (Or if my opponent goes for a takedown, I'll counter-throow.) On the street, I would typically avoid going to the ground if I could help it. In that case, my BJJ would just be a surprise waiting for anyone who took me down.
On of my goals for this coming year is to get either my judo or wrestling takedowns to a higher level, where I can take folks down quickly without a lot of fuss.
MarcoPolo
10-07-2005, 16:21
I think you'll find a lot of BJJ guys have additional backgrounds. I think you hit the nail on the head with it totallly depending on your opponent.
I think a simple entry (from a rt handed stance) is to jab/cross/rt leg roundhouse to clinch. (And for a particularly nasty followup, if you get side clinch, don't go for the takedown... bend your knees and explode straight up under the chin with your head... NOT a technique for the ring, but one i'd definitelly use in the street. (A Marco Ruas special ;)
Antares33
10-08-2005, 02:20
I'd just like to echo the sentiment that most BJJ guys at my Gym cross train in Kickboxing, MMA, or in some other striking art. My school also works a pretty fair bit on both sport and self defense takedowns even in the beginner classes.
I consider BJJ my primary art, but I've studied striking for longer than I've done BJJ. I feel confident enough to get a clinch and go for a takedown against a seasoned Martial Artist, or a punk on the street.
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