Techniques and Practicality

[Kandle]

i'm seriously considering beginning jujutsu, i know the japanese style involves, grappling, throws, holds, and stand up...closer to a REAL fight/self defense method like MMA
i'd appreciate if those practicing jujutsu could provide info on what techniques have been introduced to them and developed as they have progressed in their training, and also how practical you find jujutsu in the dojo and out on the street

thanks

[Bengel]

What I like most about jiu-jitsu is the diversity of techniques. You usually start out with simple but effective ways to free yourself from a wrist grab or someone trying to grab your clothing. You will also learn how to fall without injuring yourself (too much ;)).
Later on you will be taught how to punch or kick someone and what the sensitive spots are on the human body. Punches and kicks are effective tools as they can be used as an introduction to other techniques (throw or lock) or as a means to stop an attacker immediately (a good kick on the knee cap will do that). At this level you will also learn the basic arm locks, wrist locks, leg locks etc etc and several throws.
When you've praticed a few years you will start to learn how to combine different techniques and learn advanced techniques such as the more difficult throws, defenses against weapons (a stick or a knife) etc.
Although each shool may differ this is a basic program for jiu-jitsu.
Jiu-jitsu can be practical and best proof is that it is commonly used in police and armed forces training. Although it's often adapted to the specific task that these organisations execute.
On the street the most practical form of defense is still not being there when the proverbial dung hits the proverbial fan. So run away or talk your way out of the situation. No one gets hurt. Defence on the street has more to do with being able to cope with a stressful situation and still be able to act rather than having trained jiu-jitsu, boxing or tae kwon do.

[gio_ge]

I totally agree with Bengel..

In addition I would like to say that Jujutsu is one of the most effective self defence and the most practical system offered around the world.

[Ninja in training]

I've studdied many forms of martial arts (probably have about 10 or 11 yellow and orange belts) When I was 18, I found jujutsu and haven't looked back. It is easy to learn, and doesn't require you to be overly athletic. It covers every possible attack in detail, and a realistic approach for victory. Its not very pretty to watch though. If you have the right teacher(took me a few years to find a good one) You'll be alble to effectively deal with any situation.
Good luck Padiwan

[Bobby]

Sounds very good the more i hear about jujutsu the more i want to do it.

[Mark Barlow]

The fact that Jujutsu is used as the base art for most military and law enforcement training around the world speaks volumes for its effectiveness and practicality. I doubly appreciate the versatility of Jujutsu techniques. With slight variation, I can control with minimum damage, cripple or even kill, all by using the same technique.

It truly is a warrior's art.

[Gene Williams]

Yep. Them jujutsu guys, you'd better get 'em before they grab you. After they get you, its ibuprofen time.

[Erik]

I do BJJ and our club is heavily ground & sport oriented (some guys do more MMA oriented).

I have found BJJ to be outstanding training for fighting unarmed college kids who do not operate well as a team. The techniques are uncomplicated and practical and the training method emphasizes working against someone who is actively working against you, which is, to me, the key to successful training.

You also have a wide range of options ranging from sitting on the guy 'til the cops show up to crippling him or taking his life.

You do need to mind getting poked in the eyes, bitten (this happened to me once), and closing the gap to takedown, as a sound striker can decapitate you on your way in.

BJJ (as I train in it) is not so good against weapons (especially sharp ones) nor against multiple opponents, but the full resistance training you get from it helps in these cases, too, though you're better off running away no matter what MA you've studied.

Japanese jiu jitsu schools vary a lot (as BJJ is starting to do). Some are quite good, some aren't.

[Abbax8]

Yep. Them jujutsu guys, you'd better get 'em before they grab you. After they get you, its ibuprofen time.

And for some of us senior students it Ibuprofen time BEFORE we grab anyone. :D

Peace

Dennis

[DragonMind]

I just wear the Vicodan patch...

[Mark Barlow]

"Gene Williams Yep. Them jujutsu guys, you'd better get 'em before they grab you. After they get you, its ibuprofen time. "

Gene hit the nail on the head as to the effectiveness of Jujutsu. If you can't close the gap it's worthless.

[Mekugi]

Harjeet,
Hi!
I made an obeservation here it seems that you are wanting to study a MMA and maybe Jujutsu is a second choice, or are you weighing them? Do you want something that has sport?
If so, You may want to check out Brazillian Jujutsu, or something of a like ilke. That may be closer to what you are looking for. :)



i'm seriously considering beginning jujutsu, i know the japanese style involves, grappling, throws, holds, and stand up...closer to a REAL fight/self defense method like MMA
thanks

[Bobby]

Unless ur extremely gifted ur chances against mulitple foes it are low regardless of which MA you have studied. Ive seen some of the things they teach you and its left me no doubt about the effectiveness of jujitsu. Think about it like less you much better off knowing a form of defence than not knowing one.

[jwinch2]

Unless ur extremely gifted ur chances against mulitple foes it are low regardless of which MA you have studied. Ive seen some of the things they teach you and its left me no doubt about the effectiveness of jujitsu. Think about it like less you much better off knowing a form of defence than not knowing one.

Bobby,

Please do not use net speak such as "ur" on this forum. That relates to the rules you agreed to when you joined budoseek.

Thanks!

Jason

[TNThomas]

:
I just wear the Vicodan patch...
I didn't know they made one of those but it sounds like a good idea. The stuff makes me itch and makes me nauseated but if the arthritis is bad enough it helps to finish what ever job I had started that started me hurting.
I am taking mobic and it helps quite a bit too. :)

[Xuzen]

i'm seriously considering beginning jujutsu, i know the japanese style involves, grappling, throws, holds, and stand up...closer to a REAL fight/self defense method like MMA
i'd appreciate if those practicing jujutsu could provide info on what techniques have been introduced to them and developed as they have progressed in their training, and also how practical you find jujutsu in the dojo and out on the street

thanks

Kandle,

One of the most valuable lessons you learn from jujutsu'esque type arts (e.g, Judo, Aikido, BJJ etc) is the ability to ukemi (break-falls). And a good knowledge of ukemi goes a long way in Self Defense such as falling on slippery floor, speaking from personal experience.

I also have had the opportunity to spar/teach/learn from non jujutsu MA (e.g., TKD, karate people) and when it comes to ukemi, their method of falling makes my hair stand. They are just accidents waiting to happen.

I have seen some TKD'ist who are so stiff, their hands flailing about when I Osoto Gari them. If I were to give them full power throw, I guess it would be a very painful outcome... I cringe at the thought of poorly executed ukemi.

Kandle, in the full jujutsu syllabus, you have the atemi-waza (striking), kansetsu-waza(joint locking aka chin na as it is called in the Chinese art), nage-waza(throwing), katamae-waza (ground-pinning technique), shimewaza (choke/strangulation). All techniques are good tools, and when used at the right time at the right place... they are effective. I.e., use a hammer to hammer a nail, a screwdriver to screw kind of analogy.

Have fun and I hope you will enjoy jujutsu.