PDA

View Full Version : Your FMA



DatuSadiq
12-27-2005, 20:34
I would like to hear a little about everyone's system of FMA.
What are the speciaties of your system?
Is it a family system, military system, or a recent development?
And tell us about your teacher or teachers as well.

Gumagalang!
(Respectfully)

TogaAssassin
12-28-2005, 03:11
Lameco Eskrima
http://www.lamecoeskrima.com/
(following taken from FMA FAQ page because I'm to lazy to write it myself)

3Lameco Eskrima is a Filipino martial arts system combining several
different styles of Kali, Arnis and Eskrima which the founder, Punong Guro
Edgar G. Sulite, learned from prominent grandmasters in the Philippines.
Punong Guro Sulite began training at an early age under his father,
Helacrio Sulite, Sr., in their family's style. Edgar went on to train
with many of the most famous masters of the Filipino martial arts, including
GMs Abella, Caballero, Gaje, and Ilustrisimo.

The Lameco system is P.G. Sulite's distillation of techniques and
theories from these masters' styles, tempered by his years of
experience as a student, fighter, and teacher. The word "lameco" is
an acronym for "LArgo"-"MEdia"-"COrto," to emphasize that this style
is intended to be equally effective at all ranges, and in all situations.

Lameco teaches the use of the following Filipino weapons:
Solo Baston, Doble Baston, Espada y Daga, Solo Daga, Doble Daga,
Dos Manos Largos, Itak, Centro Baston, Susi and Mano y Mano.

major players : Christopher Ricketts, Benjamin Pueblos, Lowell Pueblos,
Pablito Gunio, Reynaldo Galang, Dan Inosanto, Leonard Trigg, Edwin Lim

Kalis Ilustrisimo

Is a much older art of Kali focusing mainly on bladed and largo range combat. This is my least trained FMA, but arguabally my favorite style.

DragonMind
01-01-2006, 19:25
I would like to hear a little about everyone's system of FMA.
What are the speciaties of your system?
Is it a family system, military system, or a recent development?
And tell us about your teacher or teachers as well.

Gumagalang!
(Respectfully)
Modern Arnis of GM Remy Presas

Specialties are due to the innovations of GM Presas in designing training methods, drills, and approaches that took his knowledge of the fighting arts of RP and made them safer to train and spread around the world. Lots of stick work on tapi-tapi, sinawali, crossada, disarms, counters, and more counters. Highly emphasized the "flow". Thanks to the work of Bram Frank, the original blade aspects of the Presas family style are becoming better known.

Modern Arnis is a merging of several influences including the Presas family style, Doce Pares, Balintawak, Sinawali and others.

The core (according to my teacher, SM Dan Anderson) would be:

* 12 angles of attack
* disarms
* angling/body shifting
* cane & empty hand anyos
* the three sinawalis
* the basic classical styles (rompida, banda y banda, figure 8, etc.)
* tapi-tapi
* the flow drills
* basic espada y daga (crossada, balis palis)
* locks/flowing locks
* empty hand applications from stick actions

My first teachers were Jerry Ingle and Bill Logan (under direction of Bruce Chiu). My current teachers are SM Dan Anderson (El Supremo) and SM Bram Frank. Dan is one of the oldest US students of Remy Presas and one of the highest ranks that Remy awarded. He has developed a curriculum called MA-80 that teaches Modern Arnis as Remy taught it to him.

SM Bram Frank teaches the blade aspects of Modern Arnis (but never doubt his abilities with a stick!), as well as modern blade technique. His Modular approach to training is a innovative technique to teaching MA.

I also train with Ray Dionaldo, Rico Cortez and Mike Jennings of the FCS/Sayoc Kali groups. I would not presume to claim them as my teachers but I learn quite a lot from them and feel grateful that they share their time with me.

jabonn
01-02-2006, 06:54
I also study Modern Arnis (Remy Presas). Barry has done a wonderful job in capturing the aspects of the style. What I would add to Barry's list are the floor drills or floor leg attacks. My instructor said Remy referred to these as swastika techniques.

beungood
01-02-2006, 20:37
I train in Pekiti-Tirsia Kali With Guro William shultz who had a background on Lameco ,Doces Pares ,Muay Thai and Krabi Krabong before training in Pekiti. His workouts are tough and very instructional and manages to use all his backgrounds to make the training fun while adhering to the structrue of Pekiti.

Cliff Hargrave
01-02-2006, 22:21
I did a little Pekiti-Tirsia but not with a guro. He is a low rank, i think it was lakan or something like that. I know enough not to hit myself with a stick, that's about it. I also did little Lameco with a guy called bustr :) I plan on getting back into FMA one day when a few more hours are added to the day. I can't fit it in with just 24 hours right now.

tyerandolph
01-02-2006, 22:28
I trained in yang style tai chi or as we call it tai chi combat.The main goal my instructor when starting was to show that tai chi guys can fight.the grandmaster of this style had combined some heavy duty strenth training ex:the wheel barrel, push ups with someone on your back ab work with someone standing on your abs,cardiovascular,like the fireman carry and several thousand jacks as you were promoted.him being in the marines plus had black belts in other sytems made the workout different but very effective compared to other shcools.we learned slow and fast pace forms,weapons,breaking,self deffense(chin na).


id say it was more of a traditional style made more better.

DragonMind
01-03-2006, 10:18
BTW Cliff, guro means teacher while lakan is BB rank. Think of sensei vs. dan as a comparable model.

Cliff Hargrave
01-03-2006, 11:52
BTW Cliff, guro means teacher while lakan is BB rank. Think of sensei vs. dan as a comparable model.

Thanks. I don't know much about it. I really want to train some more in it. Maybe one day....

TonyU
01-03-2006, 12:30
Thanks. I don't know much about it. I really want to train some more in it. Maybe one day....
Same here. I took the one Atienza kali seminar and loved it.
Unfortunately not enough time in the day.

DragonMind
01-04-2006, 11:35
Not much longer and you'll be getting some more...

dao
01-04-2006, 21:58
I'm still learning what the Sayoc Kali is about. Its a family art.

It is primarily knife fighting but, our class focusing on long blades/swords (using sticks to simulate the blade) and we are learning to fight as groups (two against two) which is actually really hard and we often come close or stab our own team :o. Also I'm not used to having people depend on me while I'm fighting - so I have a tendancy to back away out of the formation when I'm not concentrating -its a really different feeling ( good but, different) than what I'm used to.

DragonMind
01-05-2006, 15:27
Sayoc's motto used to be All Blade - All the Time. As Ray Dionaldo is taking more and more of a role in the training curriculum, there will be more stick work emphasized again. I've started working out with some local FCS guys which includes Sayoc Kali as one of its base systems. Love the full contact stick sparring.

Brian R. VanCise
01-05-2006, 15:41
My Filipino experience is over 25 years in Modern Arnis, lots and lots
of Dan Inosanto work and so many seminars on other Filipino arts
that I cannot keep it all straight. I am less of a drill oriented
practitioner and more interested in live one on one work or contact
sparrring aka Dog brothers & WEKAF style but with kicks, hand strikes,
takedowns and grappling.

One of my areas of special interest is Wrist Strike techniques. (abinico)
If I had to pick any area of expertise in FMA that would definately be one of
them.

This month I am hosting a Dan Anderson Modern Arnis 80 seminar that
should be absolutely great! The month after (February) I am having
another extremely talented Filipino martial artist named Brian Smith
teach a seminar to us on his art of Kuntaw.

My goal is to always keep learning and see what other people do and
enjoy training. While not a completely Filipino guy, I do love the
FMA's. :D

Brian R. VanCise
www.instinctiveresponsetraining.com

DragonMind
01-06-2006, 12:46
Sounds great Brian.

I use abaniko a lot and not just for wrist striking. My understanding is the name refers to the fan-like motion not the target.

Brian R. VanCise
01-06-2006, 13:37
Hey Barry,

Yes abinico refers to the fan like motion. I just do not teach
using other countries languages so the term I use for abinico
is Wrist Strike. Meaning that the wrist moves alot during the
abinico motion. Your physical usage of abinico strikes and my usage
of a Wrist Strike are probably identical, just a different term.

Brian R. VanCise
www.instinctiveresponsetraining.com

DragonMind
01-06-2006, 14:47
Got you. I thought you meant wrist as in target rather than wrist as in producing the strike. We're good, brother.

Only two weeks to El Supremo! I'm really looking forward to meeting Rich Parsons in Brevard this year. I told my baby sister that I will be at her wedding this year AS LONG AS IT ISN'T DURING BREVARD!

Brian R. VanCise
01-06-2006, 16:14
Yes, Rich is great! You will really have a good time with him.
Rich is a fantastic teacher with a wealth of knowledge.
I have attached a recent picture of Rich showing the finer
points of Modern Arnis. This picture was taken at the last
seminar he did for me.

Brian R. VanCise
www.instinctiveresponsetraining.com

Brian R. VanCise
01-06-2006, 16:18
Here is the picture! :D

Brian R. VanCise
www.instinctiveresponsetraining.com

Sochin
01-06-2006, 17:01
Not too much in FMA. I wanted to get a feel for how 'real' stick and knife people moved because the stuff I was getting in karate class sucked big time.

So I did a year with two guys who were students of Remy Presas.He showed up a lot at class and came to town for seminars a lot and I finally found out that he was living here but staying very low profile. Too cool.

I had a seminar with Ernesto, Remy's brother and with Sonny Umpad which was great. I got a good grounding in the first year basics, I'd say and it's done wonders for my karate.

Oh, and seminars with Louie Lindoe (sp ?) who was just great...

Rich Parsons
03-06-2006, 00:45
Got you. I thought you meant wrist as in target rather than wrist as in producing the strike. We're good, brother.

Only two weeks to El Supremo! I'm really looking forward to meeting Rich Parsons in Brevard this year. I told my baby sister that I will be at her wedding this year AS LONG AS IT ISN'T DURING BREVARD!


Well I hope to live up to Brians comments and your expectations. :)

Looking forward to meeting you to sir.

DragonMind
03-06-2006, 16:02
Well I hope to live up to Brians comments and your expectations. :)

Looking forward to meeting you to sir.
My teacher, Dan Anderson, has told me nothing but good things about you and GM Buot. I'm really interested to see Balintawak since it was such a strong influence on Modern Arnis.