Wrestling Legal Triangle Choke

[migo]

I've been in a couple of situations in wrestling in which I could have used a triangle choke. Unfortunately, wrestling rules prohibit locking the legs around the head, neck or body. This makes the Triangle as I have seen it illegal. Does anyone have any suggestions for doing the triangle and keeping it legal within wrestling rules?

[ExLeperMessiah]

Triangle?

I don't know what sort of wrestling you do....but as of now folkstyle allows the scissor lock around the body, and the figure-four around the head.

[Bad Karma]

ExLeperMessiah, since you're a current wrestler, I'm so glad to hear you say that! ;)

Peace

[Bad Karma]

Oh, yeah. Like a shadow in the night...

Please sign all posts with your real name...you should know the drill by now. ;)

Peace

[ExLeperMessiah]

Your information says that you're from Canada, and you're asking about using legs, so I'm assuming that you wrestle freestyle. A good referee should stop the match and award the other wrestler one point if you put anything across his throat (I'm almost positive that this holds true in freestyle, but I could be wrong). Wrestling isn't really the place for chokes.

[Bad Karma]

Scott,
Does this hold true for "incidental" chokes or geared more towards direct (intentional) chokes?

Peace

[SevenStar]

the triangle doesn't have to go across the back of the neck. I dunno if I can explain it.... have you ever tried to triangle someone and when you first get the position, your leg is angled down their back instead of across the neck? do that. Instead of squeezing down like you do with a normal triangle, you squeeze inward, using your inner thighs to choke. I never would have thought about trying that - I learned it in a seminar. I use it pretty frequently now. I'll look and see if I can find some pics of it on the web.

[roninja]

It's been a long time since I've wrestled, and don't remember any names of any of the techniques except for the takedowns. but I do know that there is a pin, done with the arms, that slightly resembles the triangle choke. if you've done submission wrestling you should have seen the technique. it's done from sidemount or the mount and one of the partner arms is put on one side of your head and then you hug them around the neck. one arm goes directly over the neck and the other goes under the arm that was placed alongside your head. this is basically the triangle choke, just done with the arms. and like I said this technique doesn't have to be used as a choke, as in unsportslike in wrestling, and it can be used to get leverage. and if it seems like it would get leverage all you have to is start walking and apply more pressure to the arm that is being used as leverage. you can also do a quick change up and take it to a sitting side mount and a neck crank you reveal the shoulders to the mat. hope this helps and/or was what you were asking for.

[black-gi]

I am not a wrestler but I was under the inpression to be on your back was a bad thing? and I dont remember choking being anything close to legal so why find a way to choke? MAYBE I'm wrong!




Jason Bryant
Tracy Karate

[Pick]

The rules regarding freestyle wrestling I'm not to sure about, but in folk style you are allowed the triangle on the head and the sicors (bloody can't spell) on the body.

-Ryan McCall

[Crooked]

OK, i took a look at your profile, and saw that you do Judo? Is that correct? if So, then under the rules that i do Judo ( they probably vary in different countries) triangle choke should technically be allowed, if one arm is also involved in the choke... Hard to explain... hope you get my point... ;) but as many triangle chokes as i have seen (not that many :rolleyes: ) the hand is always there... so i dont know... but if you do any other form of martial arts then judo, then i dont have a clue. :D

- Kuldar Nei

[Steve Loftin]

Chokes are a good point when talking about amateur wrestling. They are not "legal" per say, but can defiitely be employed. I heard stories/rumors in the past about Dave Schultz choking people out in wrestling competitions. But I never believed it, but then I read kurt Angle's biography......

"That incident, as well as others, earned him the reputation of being the bad boy of wrestling. Gys used to shoot for a takedown onhim and he'd get them in a front headlock. He found a way of choking guys. They'd go limp and he'd whip them over and pin them real qucik. By the time the ref would see the guy was out, it was too late. By the time he got to the '84 Olympics, everybody was watching him closely. Dave would give somebody a front headlock and the ref would stop the match. They were on him all the time. And he still won the gold that year with a phenomenal performance."

- "It's True, It's true." Kurt Angle, Pgs. 107-108


Pretty sweet if you ask me.


Steve

[Luebbers]

A guy I work with used to wrestle in high school, and he said that sometimes guys would get you in a psuedo-choke hold basically to coerce you into exposing your back to the mat.

[AndrewSimonsen]

Chokes are allowed in wrestling, but you must also have an arm in the choke, not just the head/neck. In one of my matches I somehow ended up sitting on my opponents head while my right leg was around his head, I took advantage of the situation and tried to choke him with my leg, but we were called at stalemate and repositioned. One choke in wrestling is the bulldog, you opponent shoots in and you sprawl. you wrap your left arm around the right side of his head, and you reach underneath his left arm like an underhook then lock hands, arch your back, and squeeze. I saw this happen to one guy, who was so lethargic once he was let go of that his opponent literally just rolled him to his back and then sunk in the half-nelson, without even resisting.