Ryu kempo

[Bobby]

My particular style of jujitsu is Ryu kempo can anyone tell me a little more about it.

[Bobby]

I expected at least one reply, guess its not an interesting topic. :(

[Cliff Hargrave]

Maybe no one has heard of it. If it's your style then why can't your instructor tell you about it?

[Bobby]

Taken from the my instuctors website:

"Midland ju-jitsu association was born out of the dissatisfaction of other martial art federations and the way that martial arts have become a business.

Over the years many of the individual martial arts such as Karate, Tae Kwon do and many other styles have blended Ju-Jitsu into their own style of martial art, normally badly as they do not understand the principles of the art and the way the use of an opponents force is the key weapon against him.

Midland Ju-Jitsu is pure Ju-Jitsu - the most complete form of fighting!
Based on the "small circle" theory of Ju-jitsu, our style is a mixture of counter, escaping and striking.

We use various strikes, kicks, throws, pressure points, arm and wrist locks to take our opponent to submission and to deliver whatever force is required without leaving permanent disability.

We do not use any form of kata! - Ju-Jitsu is a combat art and cannot realistically be practised on an individual situation.

We teach each technique from both left and right sided attacks unlike other ju-jitsu federations."

Unlike my old school grading is in house so i don't have to travel in order to grade. There are 10 gradings to 1st dan black belt and each grading examination is taken during club time when each student is ready - not when the instructor says the student should be ready. And training is cheap £5 a session great when you on budget.

[Gene Williams]

Taken from the my instuctors website:

"Midland ju-jitsu association was born out of the dissatisfaction of other martial art federations and the way that martial arts have become a business.

Over the years many of the individual martial arts such as Karate, Tae Kwon do and many other styles have blended Ju-Jitsu into their own style of martial art, normally badly as they do not understand the principles of the art and the way the use of an opponents force is the key weapon against him.

Midland Ju-Jitsu is pure Ju-Jitsu - the most complete form of fighting!
Based on the "small circle" theory of Ju-jitsu, our style is a mixture of counter, escaping and striking.

We use various strikes, kicks, throws, pressure points, arm and wrist locks to take our opponent to submission and to deliver whatever force is required without leaving permanent disability.

We do not use any form of kata! - Ju-Jitsu is a combat art and cannot realistically be practised on an individual situation.

We teach each technique from both left and right sided attacks unlike other ju-jitsu federations."

Unlike my old school grading is in house so i don't have to travel in order to grade. There are 10 gradings to 1st dan black belt and each grading examination is taken during club time when each student is ready - not when the instructor says the student should be ready. And training is cheap £5 a session great when you on budget.

So, he made up his own style because he can do it better. Great...have fun.

[Bobby]

Thats very sarcastic and generally not a very nice attitude, not only is that is disrespectful to my teacher but it offends me. Are you saying im an idiot.

What Ive found out is this

"the martial arts system they teach has evolved from these traditional forms of combat, taking what is applicable to the modern day world and modern day situations and combining this with modern day concepts from arts such as Kempo or Kenpo providing effective self defence."

[Lame Leopard]

Bobby. Let's look at the facts. You asked if anyone could give you info on Ryu Kempo. You got no replies, not because no one cares, but because no one really knew anything about it. Then you print the schools "statement" concerning the art itself. It spends as much time attacking other arts as it does sheding light on itself.

1) It states that martial arts have become a business. Does your school take money from you? If it does, it's a business.
2) There is no room for kata in your art. This implies that arts that practice kata are wasting their time.
3) You say that Gene is disrespecting your teacher. The statement concerning your art shows quite a bit of disrespect. It does not just claim to be effective, but superior. Do you know how many arts make this same claim?
4) If you are happy with this system and your instructor, why do you need anyone else's stamp of approval?
5) You will find that there are quite a few fair minded people here. The dialogue of fairness takes a good deal of give and take. If a dialogue here offers you nothing, then let's not have one. Go practice your art and enjoy. I will repeat myself. If you like what you are doing then nobody else's blessing is necessary.

[Cliff Hargrave]

Thats very sarcastic and generally not a very nice attitude, not only is that is disrespectful to my teacher but it offends me. Are you saying im an idiot.

What Ive found out is this

"the martial arts system they teach has evolved from these traditional forms of combat, taking what is applicable to the modern day world and modern day situations and combining this with modern day concepts from arts such as Kempo or Kenpo providing effective self defence."

I think what he was saying is it was a silly question to ask other people for information about your art when your instructor made it up. How is anyone else supposed to know about it? If he made it up then he is the only one who will know anything about it, unless it survives and spreads for 70 to 80 years.

[kumite]

Gene's not really that mean. Just grouchy. :D

[Mekugi]

I find this whole thread odd. What was the point of posting here and why, Bobby? Is there something you are not telling us? Why are the names "Kempo" and "Kenpo" different? Is there an agenda here we are not seeing?

[Bobby]

I feel like a prat now thanks for shedding light on the subject and I'm apologise for an offence Ive caused. Guess I'm kind of edge sometimes :) I didn't want anyone approval just wanted to know Little about its origins, I didn't realise were made up until you pointed it, DOH.

[Jason T Gatts]

Bobby,I agree with everyone's comments so far.

If you could post a link to your instructor's website maybe you could get more useful opinions (but be prepared for criticism if it's called for).

I would add that the "small circle" mentioned in your post might be a reference to Wally Jay. Just a thought - look into it.

Your best resource is still likely to be your instructor, but that does not mean that there is nothing that you can learn here.

Good luck.

[Bobby]

Thx for the information managed to find a wealth of information, heres a link http://www.smallcirclejujitsu.co.uk/leonjay.htm sounds very familar to what im studying.

[Katsujinken]

This is the web-site:
http://www.midland-jujitsu-association.co.uk/about.html

Looks like it may be BJJA/WJJF based to some extent.

Regards

Chris Norman

[Mekugi]

For more on Small Circle Jujutsu, you can visit :http://www.smallcirclejujitsu.com/

Wally Jay originally studied Danzan Ryu Jujutsu. That might be another link for you to look into :http://www.danzan.com/HTML/PEOPLE/wally.html

[Bobby]

This is the web-site:
http://www.midland-jujitsu-association.co.uk/about.html

Looks like it may be BJJA/WJJF based to some extent.

Regards

Chris Norman

I wished you hadnt done that. But it was to be expected i guess.

[TonyU]

I wished you hadnt done that. But it was to be expected i guess.
Why? It may help better answer your question.

[Mekugi]

Why? It may help better answer your question.

Yeah, what's the problem? Is there something else that we are not privy to? Why are you so defensive?