? about the clinch

[ds14]

In training with a buddy of mine I keep running in to the same problem, whenever we get in the clinch, (he's got a lot of weight on me), and so sometimes I find him just leaning over and putting his weight on me and keeping my head pushed down, which makes it just a little bit harder to check his knees and kicks and throw some of my own. I can usually get out of it if I get the inside grip or just slide under and to the outside of his arms, but doesn't always work. Any suggestions?
-Dan Smith

[Jeff Burger]

When he leans his weight on youstep out of the way and pull him to the floor.

Im not big fro trying to thorw in a Mauy Thai clinch. While its nice to throw the guy (you get points and a chance to take a few extra breaths while he has to work to get up offf the floor) I find its usually a waste of hard work. Your both to slippery with sweat.

I dont clinch usualt Thai style. I will ceede whats considered the dominate clinch position. Ill take one arm and keep on him like a low belt to block knees while I strike with the other hand.
Sometimes people can get stuck in their style. Because they have what they believe is the better position people will often stay there and continue throwing knees (that are not landing). If you not fighting back they way they expect they figure your in trouble.

If its Sanda or Sanshuo then you can grab the keeing leg for a throw.

Jeff

[chaz2290]

What is the clinch please?

and what is the difference between kickboxing and muay thai?

Thanks in advance

Chaz

[Jeff Burger]

You box and are not familiar with the term clinch?

Muay Thai is a form a kick boxing that involves kicks, knees, punches and elbows.

You might want to do a search before asking such broad off thread topic questions.


Jeff

[ds14]

Thanks a bunch Jeff, I'll have to try that out. Charles I'm sure you know what the clinch is, you just may not know you know.

Dan Smith

[chaz2290]

K thanks very much, they may call it somthing else where i train, thanks very much
So is muay thai like thai kwondo at all?
I am looking to start a new martial art and am wondering what to choose, this is the reason for the questions. What do you advise?
Cheers

ChaZ

[TonyU]

So is muay thai like thai kwondo at all?
ChaZ
No. Do a Google search on Muy Thai and you'll get some information.

[Dennis Monk]

So is muay thai like thai kwondo at all?


No. Do a Google search on Muy Thai and you'll get some information.

I was going to say, yes of course it is.
Oh well.
Another thing bothers me, What else would they call the clinch where you train?
The "headhug"? The "mangrab"?
Inquiring minds want to know.

[chaz2290]

I have hd a look online and i can see that TKD includes complex moves and acrobatics, it also seems more popular then MT and more difficult to learn. Sounds good
is there anything else you can add?
is muay thai not a bit dangerous using elbows and knees, has anyone ever been seriously injured or even killed?
Taking a punch from a padded hand is one thing so i cant imagin how much a hard elbow to the face hurts, would i have to be prepered for lot if pain?

Cheers and sorry for all the Q's

ill keep looking on google btw, thats how i found this site :)

[chaz2290]

to dennis: i have not leart much fighting techniques while i have trained, my instuctor believes in a high amount of fittness and perfect punching ect before i even bother entering a ring. So i have simply been training and doing the odd spar for the last five months.

[TonyU]

The "mangrab"?

:laugh:
I, for one, do not want to learn that technique.

[Dennis Monk]

i have not leart much fighting techniques while i have trained, my instuctor believes in a high amount of fittness and perfect punching ect before i even bother entering a ring. So i have simply been training and doing the odd spar for the last five months.
(Whatever an odd spar is) Please, I assume you have Microsoft Word on your computer. If not please invest in something with a spell check. We aren't perfect in grammar and its usage but please make an effort.
With that out of the way, please explain this. You have not "leart much fighting techniques", (I assume you mean that you have not learned many fighting techniques) yet you feel that you are qualified to make such statements as:
many people have different views on which art to practise, i believe in no noncence fighting and believe if you need to defend your self you probably wont hve time for the karate ect gibberish. So because you do not have much time when/if you are attacked surely kickboxing is the best way to defend yourself.

Please feel free to elaborate.
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[chaz2290]

i have no idea what most of the above mean, and i can see i was wrong about the 'karate ect gibberish'.Ill try to use the correct grammar ect

[Matthew Jones]

I don't understand much of what was said above, but I can see that I was wrong about the 'karate ect gibberish'. I'll try to use correct grammar in the future.


Something like this would have been better.

[Thai boxing badger]

Hey i have simmilar problems as my Kru is much bigger than me and im only 12 so he's stronger as well. the way to get round it to get in a good position and rain knees down pulling and twisting your opponont if you really strugle get out of the clinch and if he goes in for another keep him at bay with the front kick. :)

[Odin]

The most important part of the clinch is reading your opponents body language when you feel him move in a certain way you'll know what's coming....the biggest mistake I use to make in clinch is using alot of power and strength its not about that at all the only thing that should be strong is your grip the rest of you should as relaxed as possible.