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Mekugi
05-17-2006, 20:23
More and more...will it ever end?? :D

Shinkage Ryu Iai /Yagyu Seigo ryu

Group 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jh5LdTovZ8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLGIl0899d0

Group 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ksvAEaWNzQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uyp9K2GgW4


Muso Jikiden Eishin ryu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-_KTYjZIH8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdsdzSG5Fts


Sekiguchi ryu Battojutsu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90GoEZHXDrk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nu2XCMBpp4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pez0bJQ2h_U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXK_4gOaDOU


Tenshinsho Jigen ryu:

Check out these kids for sure...using shinken.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WfzAOtDHsQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6k0LJqIZp4

Prince Loeffler
05-17-2006, 20:43
These are great stuff Russ ! Thank you for sharing all these wonderful links ! :bow:

Mekugi
05-17-2006, 22:06
These are great stuff Russ ! Thank you for sharing all these wonderful links ! :bow:

Sure!
My only hope is the names are all correct. Some of the tape doesn't have the names of the ryuha being demonstrated, so there may be errata.

Gunyo Kogusoku
05-18-2006, 07:45
Russ,

what are the differences between Seigo-ryu group 1 & 2? Are they different orgs?

Charles Mahan
05-18-2006, 10:17
More and more...will it ever end?? :D


Muso Jikiden Eishin ryu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-_KTYjZIH8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdsdzSG5Fts



These are probably ZNIR/Seitokai guys. I say that based largely on the fact that the first kata both guys do in the first video come from the ZNIR Toho set. I don't recognize them, but the video is a bit grainy and there are thousands of ZNIR/Seitokai folks in Japan. If I'm not mistaken, the second group is considerably more advanced than the first group.


Any idea who these folks are in in the other video you've posted and what branch they might be associated with?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6kV3hqSmQA&search=Muso%20Jikiden%20Eishin%20Ryu

Mekugi
05-18-2006, 22:08
Russ,

what are the differences between Seigo-ryu group 1 & 2? Are they different orgs?

Yeah different schools. Same stuff, same embu.

Mekugi
05-18-2006, 22:09
Any idea who these folks are in in the other video you've posted and what branch they might be associated with?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6kV3hqSmQA&search=Muso%20Jikiden%20Eishin%20Ryu

I am not sure. I will have to dig out my flyer from the embu.

Scott Irey
06-05-2006, 00:50
They definitely do look like they are doing Seitokai MJER. i can't say I know either group demonstrating although the practitioner on the far right in the second video looks familiar to me. It has been too many years since I lived in Naogoya though so I am sure the current MJER crowd there is populated with a lot of folks I have never met.

Anyways, thanks for posting the videos Russ!

Regards,

Scott Irey

Charles Mahan
06-05-2006, 12:15
Welcome to the forum Irey-sensei.

What about these guys? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6kV3hqSmQA&search=Muso%20Jikiden%20Eishin%20Ryu

Any idea who they might be or what branch they are associated with?

Mekugi
06-05-2006, 12:55
Welcome to the forum Irey-sensei.

What about these guys? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6kV3hqSmQA&search=Muso%20Jikiden%20Eishin%20Ryu

Any idea who they might be or what branch they are associated with?

That's the same video I listed above and I think Scott is talking about, isn't it?

Charles Mahan
06-05-2006, 13:03
I thought Scott was talking about these two videos.


Muso Jikiden Eishin ryu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-_KTYjZIH8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdsdzSG5Fts

Mekugi
06-05-2006, 13:36
OK that is easy to clear up...
HEY SCOTT...Which videos doth thou speak of?

:)

-R

Brian R. VanCise
06-05-2006, 15:05
Thanks!

Brian R. VanCise
www.instinctiveresponsetraining.com

Alex Dale
06-05-2006, 23:08
Hey guys,


I posted this on E-Budo, but I'll post it here too.


From what I can tell, the group in question is the "Shinkage-ryu iai" group. If you do some searching at E-Budo and around the net you can find more info about them.


HTH.

Charles Mahan
06-06-2006, 08:59
Eh??? You sure? Russ has them listed as an MJER group, and they do look like MJER, albeit somewhat different than I'm used too.

You sure we're talking about the same video?

Mekugi
06-06-2006, 09:29
Now I am confused! Please post the link of the video you are talking about!!

Charles Mahan
06-06-2006, 10:01
This is the video we've been talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6kV...%20Eishin%20Ryu

It's an Eishin Ryu group, different from the two you posted initially, but according to YouTube also posted by you.

This is the group I asked you about way up in the thread, and the one I asked Irey-sensei about.

Alex Dale
06-06-2006, 17:31
Whoa whoa, sorry guys. Didn't mean to confuse y'all. My bad.

I was talking about the difference between the "Seigo-ryu" groups in question:


Russ,

what are the differences between Seigo-ryu group 1 & 2? Are they different orgs?

Group 1 seems to be an exponent of the Owari Yagyu Shinkage-ryu, demonstrating the Yagyu Seigo-ryu of the Yagyukai.

Group 2, I believe, is from the "Shinkage-ryu iai" school, a school that broke off with the death of the previous headmaster of YSR.

Hope that helps / is accurate. :eek:

Mekugi
06-06-2006, 17:48
Whoa whoa, sorry guys. Didn't mean to confuse y'all. My bad.

I was talking about the difference between the "Seigo-ryu" groups in question:



Group 1 seems to be an exponent of the Owari Yagyu Shinkage-ryu, demonstrating the Yagyu Seigo-ryu of the Yagyukai.

Group 2, I believe, is from the "Shinkage-ryu iai" school, a school that broke off with the death of the previous headmaster of YSR.

Hope that helps / is accurate. :eek:

Yeah that seems about right....I think. I can't remember exactly. They may both be splinter groups.