Name dropping

[bujingodai]

Can I get some comments

Edward Smith and David C Falcaro. I have seen one of them on tape, was impressed greatly and have trained with the other. Great experience.

Anyone have thoughts or have never met.

[fifthchamber]

Who are they?

[David Craik]

Never heard of them..they Bujinkan guys or something?

[Gunyo Kogusoku]

Never heard of them mate.

[Brian R. VanCise]

They are not Bujinkan guys to the best of my knowledge.
I believe they are koga or neo ninja practitioners. This is
based of other people comments about them.

Brian R. VanCise
www.instinctiveresponsetraining.com

[David Craik]

Well, off to the ninja forum with this then.

[bujingodai]

Not not neo's or Koga.
Ed Smith is Aikijutsu as is Falcaro Sensei, though Dave Falcaro was involved with the Genbukan until he moved under Edward Smith.

Just looking for conversation that might become positive instead of a hunt. So never mind we'll leave it be.

[Brian R. VanCise]

Sorry Dave,

I am very unfamiliar with them.
Could you tell us something about
what they study then and who
they are. Do they have any websites?
Take care.

Brian R. VanCise
www.instinctiveresponsetraining.com

[konosan13]

They are not Bujinkan guys to the best of my knowledge.
I believe they are koga or neo ninja practitioners. This is
based of other people comments about them.

Brian R. VanCise
www.instinctiveresponsetraining.com

What is a "neoninja"?

[Tony Dismukes]

What is a "neoninja"?

A "neoninja" would be someone without a background in any of the surviving historical ninjutsu traditions who assembles their own "ninja" art reflecting a conception of what ninjutsu "should" be based on books or movies. These individuals may claim to have inherited an actual historical tradition, but can never produce evidence of their instructor/lineage. Alternately, they may claim to be teaching a "new and improved" art based on concepts from the historical traditions.

[Don Roley]

Not not neo's or Koga.
Ed Smith is Aikijutsu as is Falcaro Sensei, though Dave Falcaro was involved with the Genbukan until he moved under Edward Smith.

Actually, Falcaro seems to be a bit more involved than that if this post by you is any indication.

http://www.budoseek.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=65339#post65339


Jason, Falcaro Sensei had sent me a DVD of their last event which the Sanucus (sp) Ryu was the with Konnigun and Mikeba Ryu.

I have since trained with David Falcaro a number of times, he is very impressive. His guys and my guys gelled real well. I enjoyed it immensly. We are going back in March and April next year. My teacher and he get along very well.

I have also spoken to Jamie Ellerbe on the phone while in Pennsylvania, real nice guy. I am looking forward to meeting and training with him in April at the summit.

Ellerbe/ Mikeba ryu was just the subject of conversation when either one of his students, or himself pretending to be a student yet again caused a lot of trouble by hijacking posts and writing in gibberish. The Konigun is the group that is the subject of a sticky right now. Both of them have no proof that they were taught anything by anyone and are not people I would associate with at all.

Also, Falcaro used to be a member of one of the worst of those cheesy Soke boards. You know the ones that you can join for some cash for a little recognition.

Dave, I am sure you are just as smitten with their skills as the Konigun folks are with their leader. As I have told you before, you need to raise your standards and spend more time with legitimate, skilled teachers.

[bujingodai]

I don't care about the Konnigun, I am not impressed with what I saw.
I'm am not an idiot Don. Falcaro Sensei doesn't teach Ninjutsu, he teaches Sogobujutsu. If you ask am I impressed with his skills. Umm. Yes.
You'd be an idiot not to be. You have not seen it so you can't comment. I have however seen all the people mentioned so I can.

Ellerbe Sensei, whom I met last year didn't at that point move with a Ninjutsu flair but more looked like Aiki had been influencing it. I don't know him well enough to comment.
As for the joiining of a Soke board, Dave Falcaro is not a Soke, he has a teacher. There is no boards with no recognition. He is very well educated and discriminates alot. He would not be one to just accept someone into any circle he trains with.

I will maintain my thoughts of people regardless of what org I am in. I have heard people of very high rank in the Bujinkan that move like 9thkyu talk of those that have a much higher level of movement.

I am not educated enough in the matter of paperwork to judge.
I have been around enough dojo to see if someone moves well, or combatively Two of those people that you won't convince me different is Falcaro and Wagner Senseis.

You don't have to share my opinion but you won't change mine.

[bujingodai]

You mention raise my standards.

To what regard, if you have never seen either move then how do you judge? Falcaro Sensei is likely the biggest example of living life of budo I have ever met. Other than finding anything poor about the guy, have you ever thought to research a positive side of it?

[Don Roley]

Falcaro Sensei doesn't teach Ninjutsu, he teaches Sogobujutsu.

Dave,

Not only does he list what he does as ninjutsu here,

http://www.mastersnest.com/world_registry.htm

but in a thread over at martialtalk about ninjutsu seminars you mention his name.

http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15353

As for his abilities, I remember that I argued with BShovan about Ron Duncan, who drops his weapons and tells people to take a fall in his videos, over his abilities. He was just as convinced that Duncan was skilled as you are. But if Falcaro tends to make claims of being a ninjutsu teacher, and then kind of wiggles out of things when pressed on his claims, then he does not show the type of integrity that I would look for in a teacher.

What is the name of the school he claims to teach and where is the proof that he had a real teacher? You posted this first in the Koryu section- so it can't be that you think he just made something up on his own but is good. And if he does not show proof of having a teacher, then how can we treat him as anything other than a fraud?

[Webmaster]

but in a thread over at martialtalk about ninjutsu seminars you mention his name.

http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15353

Excellent! You can take the "NinjaWars" nonsense over there then!