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Every few months I get this itch to rant. Usually I bottle it up and work it out at the dojo in a constructive manner; or smack around a makiwara in my tiny back yard scaring the neighbors cat and arousing the interest of the neighbor kids who have started to join me in my endeavor. Yes, budo is a form of therapy for me among many other things and generally it works well. In this case, however, I really need to speak out because it is simply too frustrating....
As many know I spend a lot of time uploading my personal collection of videos on youtube. Many, many people appreciate what I do and understand what they are seeing. Additionally, there are many who do not understand what they are seeing. It is also evident they do not have the experience to make any kind of judgment, nevertheless they go about labeling everything that does not look like Judo or Karate as "AIKIDO." This is the problem I have been running into and one I want to address.
I find that making as list helps me organize my thoughts and keeps things focused, so here it goes:
1. If two budoka are wearing hakama and a white judogi, this does not mean that what they are doing is AIKIDO.
2. Aikido borrowed from old school budo, and many Aikido teachers have instilled their own experience from other schools. If you think you see the same technique in one school that looks like something you may have seen in AIKIDO, it does not mean that aforementioned art is AIKIDO.
3. Please WATCH AIKIDO DEMONSTRATIONS or actually TRAIN IN IT before making the decision that if it is not Judo-related and not Karate-related, it must be AIKIDO.
4. KANSETSU WAZA (joint locking) is found in many, many martial arts. Just because a joint locking technique is not found in the Judo syllabus it in no way implies that the technique comes from AIKIDO.
5. FLOWING MOVEMENT is not something you find ONLY IN AIKIDO. Many other schools have had the idea of flowing movement WAAAAAAY BEFORE Aikido was even a glimmer in Morihei Ueshiba's eye, so STOP IT NOW.
OK.... additions or modifications to the list are certainly welcomed. Again, the fine print reads I probably have not explained myself fully and left out some details, so please realize that my thoughts are from the hip. I appreciate the time you took to read my little rant and I apologize in advance if I have offeneded anyone.
Excelsior,
-Russ
I've seen this alot too. Its only natural I suppose for people to assume.
Peter Rehse
11-29-2006, 02:48
Of course it is Russ.
:up:
Of course it is Russ.
:up:
:hot:
I am going to have to say a little prayer against you. <mumble-mumble>.
There!
Starting to feel a burning sensation in your crotch yet??
Heehee...
:laugh:
Russ, it is no surprise that the publics understanding of the differences in the martial arts is pretty poor. Considering the average person thinks karate, kung fu, and taekwondo are the same thing, the more mysterious arts like jujitsu and aikido do not stand a chance.
What you need to do is start a nightclub act where you state pretty obvious observations about the martial arts that all end with the punch line "...then you might not be doing aikido" in a Jeff Foxworthy voice. The Japanese audience would eat that up!
What you need to do is start a nightclub act where you state pretty obvious observations about the martial arts that all end with the punch line "...then you might not be doing aikido" in a Jeff Foxworthy voice. The Japanese audience would eat that up!
That is a great idea...and honestly you make a very good point. Maybe what I am missing are good explanations and examples, easily laid out.
Hmm....
I've seen this alot too. Its only natural I suppose for people to assume.
Yeah I suppose it is natural. I mean, my grandmother did not know the difference between Chinese, Thai, Korean or Japanese food; it is not that she was a bad person, it is that she just did not have the background or the information to make a decision about what the type of food was. She knew what she knew.
Musubi Dojo
11-29-2006, 08:13
Many of my friends and family have called the jujutsu I studied "Karate" for the last 15 years or so. There is no hope in educating them. I have given up entirely. I feel your pain....:wink2:
Cheers
c
Russ --- Seems anything that involves circular body and/or arm movements while dressed in modern dojo kimono qualifies as "aikido" in many people's minds. Look on the bright side --- I suppose if Steven Seagal was a hapkido practitioner, then you'd have the added quandary of having to explain that what you do is Japanese vs. Korean, as would the aikidoka since aikido and hapkido have similar techniques and come from jujutsu.
I haven't seen your videos on YouTube, but hopefully the people weighing in on your stuff are at least giving ratings and providing commentary that reflect the quality of the subject matter (even if they get the label wrong).
Mert
I suppose if Steven Seagal was a hapkido practitioner, then you'd have the added quandary of having to explain that what you do is Japanese vs. Korean, as would the aikidoka since aikido and hapkido have similar techniques and come from jujutsu.
You have just given me a migraine headache. :D You are right, I should be thankful and I really should look on the bright side.
I haven't seen your videos on YouTube, but hopefully the people weighing in on your stuff are at least giving ratings and providing commentary that reflect the quality of the subject matter (even if they get the label wrong).
Mert
Unfortunately, the anonymity of Youtube allows a lot of Sofa-Soke to rear their heads and comment. Not everyone is like that as there are some good comments, both positive and negative. Sadly, about 95% that come along are simply ignorant trash or childish snickering, which I am all for as long as they are funny and not mean-spirited or sexually perverted. So as a result I have had to set my comments to "moderated" so anything that gets posted I review before accepting it. Youtube is a great place to look at videos, but like many MA boards it is a troll festival. I have left the ratings up and most of my videos get okay ratings. It is important to keep in mind that my videos aren't "entertainment" oriented and rank rather low on the average TV-watching-thrill-seeker scale. So I only get a few serious votes- the others are just looking for the Jackie Chan stunt team or Toshiro Mifune cinema and when I don't deliver I get a poor rating. I know this because my ratings generally come along with sophomoric and smarmy comment which I delete along writing a "love letter" to the individual asking them to please stop. Lately I have not been so nice and perhaps should have taken a time out before writing to them. So this leaves the ratings pointless and moot, at the mercy of those who want to see Kung-fu wire fighting (which I like).
There are those rare folks that really have something to say, and are sometimes critical- which is fine. I accept those comments most of the time, but unfortunately the sofa-soke chime in and make the comment threads merely a trashcan.
BTW, my videos are here: http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=mekugi
Come on, Russ - EVERYONE knows that jujutsu died out in the 1800's, and was replaced by judo and aikido!
Just kidding brother. :D
Jeff Cook
Come on, Russ - EVERYONE knows that jujutsu died out in the 1800's, and was replaced by judo and aikido!
Jeff Cook
Heehee....may a yak leave a gift in your sock drawer.
Yeah --- the #$@% sofa-soke! They sometimes shift the recliner into upright, appear at our dojo (like others I'm sure), see the jujutsu we do, then say, "we do that same thing in aikido" or "that looks like aikido" with a somewhat dismissive tone. I've noticed that most of the people who say stuff like that were dabblers or short-timers in their aikido studies. More-experienced aikidoka who seek to train with us more readily see and appreciate the technical and philosophical differences between the two arts. In any case, my teacher for the most part insists that people who want to check out what we do try out a class vs. just watch one.
After all, uni may look somewhat like peanut butter, but once you taste the difference . . . :eek:
Mert
*stealthily swaps mekugi's regular coffee for decaf*
:D
I do feel your pain. Best way to help the uninformed is to inform them. Preferably in a way that does not leave visible marks, LOL.
Gunyo Kogusoku
11-30-2006, 07:43
*stealthily swaps mekugi's regular coffee for decaf*
:D
I do feel your pain. Best way to help the uninformed is to inform them. Preferably in a way that does not leave visible marks, LOL.
Nothing wrong with teaching budo groupies using a rubber hose is there? :up:
. . . I do feel your pain. Best way to help the uninformed is to inform them. Preferably in a way that does not leave visible marks, LOL.
Matt --- If we're doing atemi-waza the day a sofa-soke steps onto the mat for a trial lesson, sometimes it does!
Stephen --- Ah, but at your dojo what do you guys stuff into the rubber hose for added effect?? We use . . . nevermind.
Russ --- I've very much enjoyed the videos of yours I've had a chance to watch so far. You've been duly bookmarked for ongoing reference. Which, if any, of the arts for which you've uploaded videos do you primarily study?
Mert
Russ --- I've very much enjoyed the videos of yours I've had a chance to watch so far. You've been duly bookmarked for ongoing reference. Which, if any, of the arts for which you've uploaded videos do you primarily study?
Mert
I study a few things- listed from "longest trained in"
Sosuishiryu - I started this in Portland in 1984-85.
Shinto Muso Ryu - I started in 2000-2001 in Portland. I continued to study it when I moved to Japan with the same branch. This has the same teacher as 3-5.
Owari Tenshin Koryu Kempo - I started this in 2002-2003. This includes a few "additional" schools in the syllabus (long story,) such as Asayama Ichiden Ryu.
Kukishinden Tenshin Hyoho - I started this the same time as Tenshin Koryu, same dojo.
Hoten Ryu - I started training in this seriously in 2004. Same dojo as 3 & 4, same teacher.
So I study a few different things with only two teachers, so it is not as sporadic as it might sound.
Russ --- Still surfing through your YouTube offerings. Came across some of the aikido comments. Yeah --- and I can see why those rankle you, especially being so up close and personally involved in the subject matter.
Anyway, it might be very educational for someone with personal video footage of both Daito-Ryu and aikido to edit together a clip comparing how similar techniques are executed in each art and upload that.
Mert
I study a few things- listed from "longest trained in"
Sosuishiryu - I started this in Portland in 1984-85.
Shinto Muso Ryu - I started in 2000-2001 in Portland. I continued to study it when I moved to Japan with the same branch. This has the same teacher as 3-5.
Owari Tenshin Koryu Kempo - I started this in 2002-2003. This includes a few "additional" schools in the syllabus (long story,) such as Asayama Ichiden Ryu.
Kukishinden Tenshin Hyoho - I started this the same time as Tenshin Koryu, same dojo.
Hoten Ryu - I started training in this seriously in 2004. Same dojo as 3 & 4, same teacher.
So I study a few different things with only two teachers, so it is not as sporadic as it might sound.
Yeah well we do all that stuff in Judo Class.:up:
Peace
Dennis
Yeah well we do all that stuff in Judo Class.:up:
Peace
Dennis
Muahahaha! <Implodes>
Me Bad. Could Not resist.
Peace
Dennis
Me Bad. Could Not resist.
Peace
Dennis
That is exactly why you are "good people". Now if you will excuse me, I need to get some sleep from too much Judo today (I say that now but really, I will probably post again soon).
Kudos!
Anyway, it might be very educational for someone with personal video footage of both Daito-Ryu and aikido to edit together a clip comparing how similar techniques are executed in each art and upload that.
Not quite the same, but I've used a Dentokan( c.f. Hakko Ryu) comparison with aikido on a few courses. Closest to heresy was at aikido-l Euroseminars in Windsor and Berlin, then I ran a course in Warborough with an aikidoka, Chas Leveroni, This was intended to compare Aikido and Dentokan.http://www.jujutsu.org.uk/gallery/Feb05Course
You will not be surprised to here that, compared with the variation between aikido styles, this stuff is all pretty main stream. My view is that, in general, the difference - where it exists - is primarily one of mindset.
Not quite the same, but I've used a Dentokan( c.f. Hakko Ryu) comparison with aikido on a few courses. . . . You will not be surprised to here that, compared with the variation between aikido styles, this stuff is all pretty main stream. My view is that, in general, the difference - where it exists - is primarily one of mindset.
Thanks Giles --- I'm Hakko-Denshin-Ryu / Kokodo Jujutsu myself. Aikidoka who've studied with us typically comment that the Hakkoryu wrist binds and other joint locks offer significantly less play than in aikido (e.g. they feel the effect of the extended index finger), and the lead times for taking falls are shorter (e.g. we primarily drive uke straight to the ground from the shoulder in Uchi-Komi-Dori / Ippon-Dori / Ikkyo, vs. using tai-sabaki to draw uke to the ground). Mindset is certainly different.
Mert
Giles --- What specific comments do you get regarding the differences between Hakkoryu/Dentokan and aikido during the seminars?
Mert
Giles --- What specific comments do you get regarding the differences between Hakkoryu/Dentokan and aikido during the seminars?
Most comments were along the lines of "we do that too". Whilst it's obviously risky to generalise, I think the difference that was most commented on was that Hakkoryu was felt to be more "direct": locks tighter, throws down rather than projecting, and less flowing. Seems to match with your experience too.
Okay...I here is what I am talking about.
http://www.e-budo.com/forum/showthread.php?p=430045
Hello everyone, this will be my first post here. Don't destroy me...
I have had this question and have done research of the certain type of hakama worn by the aikidoka in this link right here >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZXX-M5-0DU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZXX-M5-0DU)
What kind of hakama are they and where can i buy them? I'm pretty sure they are karusan bakama, but still do not know where to find them. Any replies appreciated, thanks
-Keith Bevacqui
The video is down right now, but that is Kukishinden Tenshin Hyoho Taijutsu. I am going to delete the video after I figure out what it is messing up, it is one that slipped through the "private" settings.
Cliff Hargrave
12-06-2006, 12:41
That sure is some funny looking pants those Aikido guys are wearing. I never seen Steven Seagal wear those.
:laugh:
There's some pretty cool judo in there too!
fifthchamber
12-07-2006, 00:43
If he had watched the entire thing through he would have seen them pull the tucks down out of the himo and show the normal hakama they used too..Shame really...But then, you will get bad questions asked because people who don't know what they are looking at will be looking..You can't moan too loudly about that really..Correct them if needed sure..But people think Aikido is it as far as Hakama and throws goes...
I'd personally have said it looked like interesting "ninpo", and then asked why they were wearing white dogi and "samurai" hakama..
Regards..
That sure is some funny looking pants those Aikido guys are wearing. I never seen Steven Seagal wear those. :laugh:
There's some pretty cool judo in there too!
I'd personally have said it looked like interesting "ninpo", and then asked why they were wearing white dogi and "samurai" hakama..
Regards..
I hate you all. May Oompa Loompas bite off your toes while Willy Wonka coats your head in nugat. :wink2:
-R
I hate you all. May Oompa Loompas bite off your toes while Willy Wonka coats your head in nugat. :wink2:
-R
I'm sure there's a cool aikido okuden technique somewhere in the jujutsu I study that can deal with this exact scenario! (And of course, it is executed from shikko while wearing naga-bakama to keep the toes safe!) :cool:
I'm sure there's a cool aikido okuden technique somewhere in the jujutsu I study that can deal with this exact scenario! (And of course, it is executed from shikko while wearing naga-bakama to keep the toes safe!) :cool:
It figures. meanwhile, I am off to viscerate myself with a spork....
Mmm, it kinda reminds me of the karoty videos someone here kept posting.
What goes around comes around. :D
Hey man, those weren't kerotie videos I posted; those were BJJ kata! Didn't all of this stuff start in Brazil??? :t2:
Jeff Cook
It figures. meanwhile, I am off to viscerate myself with a spork....
That takes awhile Russ. Suggest you use a second to make it less prolonged! I'm sure some of the karotie guys Tony and Jeff mentioned are well-versed in how to do kesa-giri wielding a dai-spork.
Either that, or seek out the services of Mandeigh Wells. She's really jazzed about the mad kumdo skills she's developing in iaido.
AllanJGAnderson
12-08-2006, 13:42
What's Aikido? I thought whenever two asian people hit eachother it's called Karate (car-rot-ee).
What's Aikido? I thought whenever two asian people hit eachother it's called Karate (car-rot-ee).
Isn't that spelled "Kroddy?"
fifthchamber
12-08-2006, 17:14
Hai...Karate....
:eek:
Ok....
Again....
is there no end ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGnKn6OVI3M
Aikijujutsuka (2 weeks ago) :
appears to be a form of Aiki no jutsu
Brian Dugger
01-16-2007, 09:44
Yeah I suppose it is natural. I mean, my grandmother did not know the difference between Chinese, Thai, Korean or Japanese food; it is not that she was a bad person, it is that she just did not have the background or the information to make a decision about what the type of food was. She knew what she knew.
Interesting you used this analogy. Being half Thai, I usually cook something up for the epicurean depraved to eat. It usually allays any question distinctly. This is also how I happen to apply a kansetsu waza into nage waza. Usually clears up the sinuses on both counts.
Many of my friends and family have called the jujutsu I studied "Karate" for the last 15 years or so. There is no hope in educating them. I have given up entirely. I feel your pain....
Cheers
c
Here, here:rant:
Ok....
Again....
is there no end ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGnKn6OVI3M
I can't believe the one commenter mistook aikido for aiki-no-jutsu!
Russ --- I'm getting the feeling that you like plinking at the clueless wonders who comment on your videos. These videos are really bait to set up encounters with which to test your written martial skills -- admit it! :up:
Enjoyed the video though. Much sublime flair imbued in the performances of those techniques!
Brian Dugger
01-17-2007, 19:15
. . . Russ --- I'm getting the feeling that you like plinking at the clueless wonders who comment on your videos. These videos are really bait to set up encounters with which to test your written martial skills -- admit it! :up:
Enjoyed the video though. Much sublime flair imbued in the performances of those techniques!
Duuude! You're evvill. It takes alike minds to see each other as well as understand. As you say, It's just wrong!:lmao4: :crazy: :lmao4:
Duuude! You're evvill. It takes alike minds to see each other as well as understand. As you say, It's just wrong!:lmao4: :crazy: :lmao4:
I admire Russ' ever-burning crusade to keep it real when it comes to bujutsu/jujutsu.
Brian Dugger
01-18-2007, 08:56
I admire Russ' ever-burning crusade to keep it real when . . .
Mert, careful-careful. This is like that other thread regarding "real". I think the term is quantitated by 'how deep the foot and leg go into the kim-chee pot'. The fragrance of it all is a matter of perspective and only considered "lagniappe".:D
Mert, careful-careful. This is like that other thread regarding "real". I think the term is quantitated by 'how deep the foot and leg go into the kim-chee pot'. The fragrance of it all is a matter of perspective and only considered "lagniappe".:D
Too artsy for me. What the heck are you two going on about.
Mert:
I didn't miss the shot about Aikido for Aikijutsu. :) Bastidge!
Too artsy for me. What the heck are you two going on about.
Mert:
I didn't miss the shot about Aikido for Aikijutsu. :) Bastidge!
Russ --- LOL, going by the popular Daito Ryu-derived interpretations of jujutsu, aikijutsu/aiki-jujutsu and aiki-no-jutsu as published on the web, the Yangyu Shingan Ryu stuff on the video looks more like aikijutsu than aiki-no-jutsu (I'm a Hakkoryu / Hakko Denshin Ryu guy, and we'd call it "jujutsu").
I thought I was keeping up with Brian banter-wise by the barest of pinky fingernails until he dropped those "kim-chee" and "lagniappe" bombs. :notworthy: We use the former term out here in L.A., but the latter term is something apparently used offshore and/or east of the Rockies.
Brian --- For my purposes, it's "real" jujutsu (in "aikido" disguise for the purposes of this thread) if it originated in Japan and is a koryu jujutsu / part of a koryu bujutsu, or is gendai (practiced in Japan or abroad) with verifiable roots from koryu or otherwise samurai lineage, e.g. Daito Ryu (not some westerner saying he picked up transmissions from a secret ryu that survived intact and surfaced during the disco era). As discussed elsewhere, aikido + judo + karate = "jujutsu" to many people. Feel free to hop over to the "It is not JUJUTSU" thread. You'd have a field day! :up: One point not yet made in that thread nor this one to date: if the Brazilians can take the ne-waza syllabus out of judo and call it "jiu-jitsu" (proven efficacy of BJJ as a fighting art notwithstanding); then dangit, aikido and karate (or any subset of 'em) must also be "jujutsu." Long live Yagyu Shingan Aiki-no-Jutsu!
Brian Dugger
01-18-2007, 10:22
Too artsy for me. What the heck are you two going on about.
Mert:
I didn't miss the shot about Aikido for Aikijutsu. :) Bastidge!
Whaddya mean too artsy? Naw, there is or was a thread about "in a real fight . . ." in which Mert and I shared some commentary and repartee. Conclusion, perspective and mindset are basically the same. Regarding articulation and intent, they can get split or divided, resulting in a whole other story or issue. We just happen to gouge <sp!> each other verbally like we probably would on the mat! I love it and its fun.:bow:
Brian Dugger
01-18-2007, 10:34
Russ --- LOL, going by the popular Daito Ryu-derived interpretations of jujutsu, aikijutsu/aiki-jujutsu and aiki-no-jutsu as published on the web, the Yangyu Shingan Ryu stuff on the video looks more like aikijutsu than aiki-no-jutsu (I'm a Hakkoryu / Hakko Denshin Ryu guy, and we'd call it "jujutsu").
I thought I was keeping up with Brian banter-wise by the barest of pinky fingernails until he dropped those "kim-chee" and "lagniappe" bombs. :notworthy: We use the former term out here in L.A., but the latter term is something apparently used offshore and/or east of the Rockies.
Brian --- For my purposes, it's "real" jujutsu (in "aikido" disguise for the purposes of this thread) if it originated in Japan and is a koryu / part of a koryu bujutsu, is gendai with verifiable roots from koryu or otherwise samurai lineage, e.g. Daito Ryu (not some westerner saying he picked up transmissions from a secret ryu that survived intact and surfaced during the disco era). As discussed elsewhere, aikido + judo + karate = "jujutsu" to many people. Feel free to hop over to the "It is not JUJUTSU" thread. You'd have a field day! :up: One point not yet made in that thread nor this one to date: if the Brazilians can take the ne-waza syllabus out of judo and call it "jiu-jitsu" (proven efficacy of BJJ as a fighting art notwithstanding); then dangit, aikido and karate (or any subset of 'em) must also be "jujutsu." Long live Yagyu Shingan Aiki-no-Jutsu!
For the record, Kim-Chee is a delicacy by Korean standards as well as a staple at the supper table (like rice is at any table in an asian influenced home). It is a fermented cabbage with copious amounts of garlic in it and can be extremely spicy. To be assured, there can be no mistaking of the scent of kim-chee.
Lagniappe is a cajun term for "extra or gratuity". It is what we use for spice in waza at Jack's dojo in Metairie.
Now before I wet myself, I'll be going to the recommended "It is not JUJUTSU" thread currently in progress.:embarrass
For the record, Kim-Chee is a delicacy by Korean standards as well as a staple at the supper table (like rice is at any table in an asian influenced home). It is a fermented cabbage with copious amounts of garlic in it and can be extremely spicy. To be assured, there can be no mistaking of the scent of kim-chee.
Lagniappe is a cajun term for "extra or gratuity". It is what we use for spice in waza at Jack's dojo in Metairie.
Now before I wet myself, I'll be going to the recommended "It is not JUJUTSU" thread currently in progress.:embarrass
Hehe, yeah, it's sometimes pretty obvious when someone within breathing distance has been to a Korean restaurant earlier in the day! Good stuff though, that kim-chee.
How do you pronounce "lagniappe"?
Brian Dugger
01-18-2007, 12:39
Hehe, yeah, it's sometimes pretty obvious when someone within breathing distance has been to a Korean restaurant earlier in the day! Good stuff though, that kim-chee.
How do you pronounce "lagniappe"?
/Lan'-ngyap/ Like land without the "d" and the second syllable is "ing" without the "i" the "a" is pronounced short as in "at" without the "t".:thumbup1:
If one of you Cajun fellas can come up with a Kimchee Etouffee recipe, I would be in gastric heaven!
Jeff Cook
If one of you Cajun fellas can come up with a Kimchee Etouffee recipe, I would be in gastric heaven!
You guys are killin' me with the French-derived lingo (whatever it is though, sure sounds tasty)!
/Lan'-ngyap/ Like land without the "d" and the second syllable is "ing" without the "i" the "a" is pronounced short as in "at" without the "t".:thumbup1:
Is that anything like a baker's dozen? I have always heard "lan-yap" when it is pronounced- bad pronunciation?
Brian Dugger
01-19-2007, 08:17
Is that anything like a baker's dozen? I have always heard "lan-yap" when it is pronounced- bad pronunciation?
Yes, that's it but put so plainly makes it sound flat. Btw, heh, heh, Mert it is not a food. It just means "bonus" or "extra".
Jeff, this is starting toward the hooter hot wing thing.
Yes, that's it but put so plainly makes it sound flat. Btw, heh, heh, Mert it is not a food. It just means "bonus" or "extra". . . .
Huhhh? . . . Oh, OK . . . ! :ticks: (puts hand in gooseneck position at chest, and repeatedly hits self with haito)
Brian Dugger
01-19-2007, 14:16
You guys are killin' me with the French-derived lingo (whatever it is though, sure sounds tasty)!
Mert, I think, I zigged and shoulda' zagged. I misunderstood, I think, in what I believed you misunderstood. Zig or zag?
If one of you Cajun fellas can come up with a Kimchee Etouffee recipe, I would be in gastric heaven!
Kim-chee is a stand alone or side dish usually eaten with rice. Just get the etouffee on rice, crawfish preferably, and order a side of kim-chee or bring yer jar wit' ya! Voila.:toast:
P.S. Better get plenty of Turbodog to wash it down.
OK . . .
Lagniappe = bonus / extra / waza spice
Etouffe = something that tastes good (which may or may not have a little lagniappe applied to it to suit a given cook's taste, or mess with unsuspecting guests)
Kim-chee (and most of the other common Asian stuff) I've got wired.
C'est bon??
Brian Dugger
01-19-2007, 16:37
OK . . .
Lagniappe = bonus / extra / waza spice
Etouffe = something that tastes good (which may or may not have a little lagniappe applied to it to suit a given cook's taste, or mess with unsuspecting guests)
Kim-chee (and most of the other common Asian stuff) I've got wired.
C'est bon??
Oui or hai!:D or is it Osu?
Oui or hai!:D or is it Osu?
Whew! . . . Two "yes"s (and a quasi-"yes") in a couple languages must mean I'm on the right track.
I had lunch with co-workers, including one from Texas and one from Arkansas. Neither of the Southerners had heard of a "lagniappe." Oh well. At least thanks to you guys, I know that lagniappe ain't snipe.
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