View Full Version : Bill O'Reilly Speaks the Truth
DaNinjew
02-09-2007, 19:32
Bill O'Reilly during a commentary with Greta Von Susteran claims that those two boys who were abducted and sexually assaulted by that man in Missouri, were actually having 'fun' because they didn't have to go to school or try to escape. Unfreakin believable! Amazingly his plans to appear as the keynote speaker at the Florida Center for Missing Children were cancelled. What a piece of work that guy is...you think if it happened to his kids that he'd still be convinced that they were having fun?
http://mediamatters.org/items/200701170009
Webmaster
02-09-2007, 20:03
Doesn't surprise me. O'Reilly is an idiot.
Musubi Dojo
02-09-2007, 20:09
Wow, that guy's about as smart as a sack of doorknobs.
Agreed. He is a blowhard. I used to watch him but now I just think he is an idiot.
Webmaster
02-09-2007, 20:51
Kevin:
You must be disappointed that so far we all agree that O'Reilly is an idiot. :D
DaNinjew
02-09-2007, 20:54
oooppppssssss
DaNinjew
02-09-2007, 20:55
:laugh: SHOCK AND AWE my brother!! I've still got hope...Cliff and Dennis sitll haven't chimed in...my fingers are crossed. :D
I'll stay tuned, because cocktails await me.
Bill who??? Does he have a talk show or something???
William Hazen
Dennis Monk
02-09-2007, 21:06
:laugh: SHOCK AND AWE my brother!! I've still got hope...Cliff and Dennis sitll haven't chimed in...my fingers are crossed. :D
I'll stay tuned, because cocktails await me.
I actually agree with Bill on many issues, even though he is a blowhard.
If he actually said that, he's stupid.
DaNinjew
02-09-2007, 21:08
I actually agree with Bill on many issues, even though he is a blowhard.
If he actually said that, he's stupid.
Damn it Gentlemen...your little Jedi mind tricks won't work on me. Cliff don't let me down brother.
Bugeisha
02-09-2007, 21:18
O'Reilly's an idiot.
I'm really glad most of us here don't like Bill O'Reilly. :cool:
Cliff Hargrave
02-10-2007, 01:12
Bill O'Reilly is an idiot.
There, it's unanimous. :D
Just because he is on Fox News doesn't mean all of us conservatives are going to automatically like him. I mean really, they have Geraldo too.....
AndrewSimonsen
02-10-2007, 01:54
Sounds like NAMBLA;
"Boys like being raped by men twice or even three times their age. It's consensual I swear." :rolleyes:
starkjudo
02-10-2007, 02:16
Can we send Al Quaeda the offical NAMBLA mailing list and at least put them to some good use?
I'm a little out of the loop over here - haven't read a paper or watched TV for almost three weeks. Do we know the boys were sexually assaulted? Did they finally charge the kidnapper with sexual assault (before I left he had not been charged)?
For the record, I don't think O'Reilly is an idiot. I think he does say idiotic things at times, though.
What he said *may* turn out to be right. However, I think he should have kept his mouth shut, and waited for more facts to surface. It is irresponsible to make that type of assumption in this particular circumstance.
Jeff Cook
AllanJGAnderson
02-10-2007, 06:43
You're all completly CRAZY! O'Reilly is a 100% right (as usual), and completly correct in his actions. All children of kidnappings are victims, no matter how well they're treated. . . .wait. .. he said they enjoyted it?. . . .Ohh. . .What and @$$.
Cliff Hargrave
02-10-2007, 08:12
Actually, Jeff is right. O'Reilly is not an idiot, he is an entertainer. His part of the show is shock commentary, not news, so he just saying things to get a reaction. He is the equivalent of the editorial section of the newspaper.
elder999
02-10-2007, 08:40
Actually, Jeff is right. O'Reilly is not an idiot, he is an entertainer. His part of the show is shock commentary, not news, so he just saying things to get a reaction. He is the equivalent of the editorial section of the newspaper.
....yeah, if Morton Downey, Jr. (http://www.mortondowneyjrhome.com/) wrote editorials...:laugh:
Actually, I don't know what Mr. O'Reillyu's real intention is as a pundit, but his books and his "No Spin" motto indicate that he takes what comes out of his mouth to be the gospel truth.....
Fist Of The MidEast Star
02-10-2007, 08:49
Do you guys remember when he kept on calling MMA as Ultimate Fighting despite how Dana White was always correcting him? The idiot tried to make it look like an illegal chicken fight.:hot:
Cliff Hargrave
02-10-2007, 10:20
Do you guys remember when he kept on calling MMA as Ultimate Fighting despite how Dana White was always correcting him? The idiot tried to make it look like an illegal chicken fight.:hot:
That pretty much sealed it for me not liking him. It's really funny when he has Al Sharpton on and they argue, trying to appear like Sharpton is the spokesman for liberals and O'Reilly is the spokesman for conservatives. The people those two represent wouldn't fill a Starbucks.
AllanJGAnderson
02-10-2007, 10:46
Agreed Cliff. After the whole UFC Dana White interview and trying to make Rich Franklin look like a barbarian, I really think he can be a jerk. But I still enjoy watching him pick apart the anti-war anti-troop guest he'll bring on his show to ridicule.
Agreed Cliff. After the whole UFC Dana White interview and trying to make Rich Franklin look like a barbarian, I really think he can be a jerk. But I still enjoy watching him pick apart the anti-war anti-troop guest he'll bring on his show to ridicule.
He does that a lot, especially to people who don't agree with his views on things. Anyone remember the Jeremy Glick situation?
I'm a little out of the loop over here - haven't read a paper or watched TV for almost three weeks. Do we know the boys were sexually assaulted? Did they finally charge the kidnapper with sexual assault (before I left he had not been charged)?
For the record, I don't think O'Reilly is an idiot. I think he does say idiotic things at times, though.
What he said *may* turn out to be right. However, I think he should have kept his mouth shut, and waited for more facts to surface. It is irresponsible to make that type of assumption in this particular circumstance.
Jeff Cook
I agree that one should not assume. The only thing I have heard regarding sexual assault in this case is that the parents of one of the boys thinks their boy was sexually assaulted:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6920884
Luebbers
02-14-2007, 18:36
That pretty much sealed it for me not liking him. It's really funny when he has Al Sharpton on and they argue, trying to appear like Sharpton is the spokesman for liberals and O'Reilly is the spokesman for conservatives. The people those two represent wouldn't fill a Starbucks.
Well said, well said. I think a big problem with news/entertainment media is that its much more convenient to take the two polar extremes of the political spectrum (who share little with the majority of people on their "side") and have them hatchet each other as opposed to having an actual nuanced discussion on policy and current events.
O'Reilly's problem is that he is in love with his opinion and feels everyone is entitled to it.
An idiot - NO. He's smart enough, but he has grown conceited (or more so) in the past 2 years especially. I use to read his columns in the paper, can't stand him too much anymore. Success breeds ego.
Peace
Dennis
Well said, well said. I think a big problem with news/entertainment media is that its much more convenient to take the two polar extremes of the political spectrum (who share little with the majority of people on their "side") and have them hatchet each other as opposed to having an actual nuanced discussion on policy and current events.
I agree, but I also think the problem is that they're just so biased and they report things only to get ratings and not to get the truth out.
DaNinjew
02-15-2007, 00:50
I agree, but I also think the problem is that they're just so biased and they report things only to get ratings and not to get the truth out.
You raise an interesting point Jonathan...our news has become so entertainment focussed and less about investigative journalism. The 'truth' is a tricky word, there are many truths out there and very few absolute or universal ones. You'll see too many stories on Anna Nicole Smith or Tom Cruise or Rosie/Trump tit for tats, etc...thats what the entertainment shows are for, not fox, cnn, or any of the other mainstream news agencies. I do like to have some shows with political discussions or viewpoints but it seems there has been a polarization of most media groups. That may be in part because of how coporate many of the news agencies have become. It used to be we had competing independent news agencies but over the years they have become victims of frequent mergers and take overs.
STORMCROW34
02-15-2007, 07:14
I used to tune in to O'Reilly on occasion. Although he annoyingly represents himself as the absolute authority on ALL matters, he DOES intermitently ask questions and bring up points that the typical "journalist" wouldn't because of various political sensitivities.
I believe he's basically the right sided equivalent of Michael Moore. An entertainer disguised as a journalist who preaches to the choir. Generally, people are inclined to "tune in" to what they want to hear in the same way that people order and pay for what they find appetizing at a restaurant. "Tuning in" equals ratings. Ratings equal capital and fame.
Brian Dugger
02-15-2007, 09:06
My dad watches Bill, I don't. He started watching it when FOX went 24/7 with news. All his buddies watch it and talk over coffee. This groups claims that all the other news outlets are 'liberal'. I just make every attempt to consider the source. Somehow, I felt like something was a little strange or wrong when this particular group agreed on news commentary over coffee and weren't complaining about the coffee.:cool:
DaNinjew
02-15-2007, 09:23
Somehow, I felt like something was a little strange or wrong when this particular group agreed on news commentary over coffee and weren't complaining about the coffee.:cool:
:laugh: :laugh:
thekingster
02-15-2007, 10:31
I'll agree with the opinionated entertainer part...
Bill proves this: opinions are in fact like @$$holes...
Brian Dugger
02-15-2007, 10:40
All very well true. I wish I could make a gangster boat full of money to make foolish public opinion on national t.v., instead I do it here for free. Talk about pricedless and a whole new meaning the world's oldest profession.:cool:
p.s. I do find it interesting that the dollar signs used in 'rectal sphincter' are quite paradoxical.
DaNinjew
02-15-2007, 10:55
Oddly enough I came across this website while looking for this story...you gotta love the internet...it really is an amazing forum for free speech.
http://www.sweetjesusihatebilloreilly.com/
And the anti-O'Reilly Keith Olbermann from MSNBC...lots of links of him throwing Bills words right back in his face.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXKPoE8ulGI
Brian Dugger
02-15-2007, 11:24
On the opening thread Greta Von Susteran was mentioned. Now, earlier I said don't watch Bill O'Reilly because of the whole 'accepted authority' contention of the coffee cowboys. I would watch Bill before Greta any day because I simply loath this woman's demeanor. For me, it's like watching a transgender Dan Rather. I'm so sorry, but this is one of those occasion where people can definitely say Brian Dugger is definitively right of center regarding Greta. My disposition is to keep all things equal.
You raise an interesting point Jonathan...our news has become so entertainment focussed and less about investigative journalism. The 'truth' is a tricky word, there are many truths out there and very few absolute or universal ones. You'll see too many stories on Anna Nicole Smith or Tom Cruise or Rosie/Trump tit for tats, etc...thats what the entertainment shows are for, not fox, cnn, or any of the other mainstream news agencies. I do like to have some shows with political discussions or viewpoints but it seems there has been a polarization of most media groups. That may be in part because of how coporate many of the news agencies have become. It used to be we had competing independent news agencies but over the years they have become victims of frequent mergers and take overs.
This is the reason why I get my news from community driven web sites. You say that there will be errors in that, too. Well, yeah, there will be but the thing about this is that the people reading the articles can weigh in on it. I'll give you an example in which made me realize this way can be a lot better.
On Digg (http://www.digg.com/gaming_news/Shoddy_Journalism:_Nintendo_DS_Hurting_Our_Childre n_) a while ago someone submitted an Article (http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=special_coverage&id=3905371) about the dangers to kids the Nintendo DS is. Now the article is pretty clear that it's mostly fear mongering and not the entire truth. However, the comments on digg state the huge flaw in the article.
After this I noticed how powerful this can be.
Luebbers
02-15-2007, 21:19
I agree, but I also think the problem is that they're just so biased and they report things only to get ratings and not to get the truth out.
Perhaps I'm being naive, but I just don't believe that many of these guys actually BELIEVE what they're saying. Bear in mind that O'Reilly got his start hosting Inside Edition, a television version of Star magazine. I think he knows exactly how to play the game and get people watching. I'm not sure what I find more offensive. Someone who actually subscribes to such extremism, or someone who pretends to in order to make a living.
Brian Dugger
02-16-2007, 10:40
Perhaps I'm being naive, but I just don't believe that many of these guys actually BELIEVE what they're saying. Bear in mind that O'Reilly got his start hosting Inside Edition, a television version of Star magazine. I think he knows exactly how to play the game and get people watching. I'm not sure what I find more offensive. Someone who actually subscribes to such extremism, or someone who pretends to in order to make a living.
No kiddin'. Hate the catch '22' almost as much as cold weather.
Angharad
02-23-2007, 11:06
Really, we don't know what happened between the two boys and their captor. People shouldn't judge O'Reilly on what he said there. He may turn out to be right, or he may turn out to be completely wrong. I agree with Jeff C. O'Reilly is only on air because he says such controversial things. He might not necessarily believe what he says, he just says them to get the ratings.
However, I similarly don't agree with what O'reilly said; not because I think he is wrong (as he may well be right), but because I think that it was a tactless thing to say when the facts are not known.
Luebbers
02-24-2007, 16:30
I just found out that a guy I went to high school with is a local cop and actually stopped the first kid when he was riding around at night on a bicycle. He sent him home. If only he had known...
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