Sick, sick, sick!

[Webmaster]

Sex-ed method leads to felony charges (http://www.projo.com/news/content/neglect10_02-10-07_3T4C0QV.1b19c86.html)

These parents are totally whacked out, and I think they should be charged with Felony Child Sexual Abuse (or something similar) and locked up for ten years or so. :e-wack:

[Musubi Dojo]

Sex-ed method leads to felony charges (http://www.projo.com/news/content/neglect10_02-10-07_3T4C0QV.1b19c86.html)

These parents are totally whacked out, and I think they should be charged with Felony Child Sexual Abuse (or something similar) and locked up for ten years or so. :e-wack:

You forgot the caning.......:mad:
Freak show.

[Abbax8]

Toss them in jail and throw away the key.

Also, why in the H$ll does anyone need sex education. It seems the world has been well populated long before this notion came along.

Peace

Dennis

[TonyU]

That mother should lose all rights to that child. Incomprehensible. :hot:

[David Craik]

Filthy pigs. :mad:

[Gordon Nore]

Ciesla asked Prata what he meant by a free and open relationship. “If [the girl] wants to learn anything about sex, we teach her,” Prata replied.
One of the reasons sexual health is taught in schools is that many parents don't teach their kids anything at all. This guy, however, is a sick creep. That's not teaching your child about sex -- that's exhibitionism mixed with child abuse.


Ciesla then spoke with the girl’s mother, asking why she thought it was important for her daughter to know how to perform sex acts. “When I was married to my first husband, my mother-in-law and husband would make fun of me” because, Arnold said, she didn’t know a slang term for oral sex. “I didn’t want anyone to make fun of [her daughter].”
This poor, poor child. I hope the damage this mother has done can be corrected. If it hasn't already happened, it would only be a question of time IMO before mom and boyfriend would find a way to rationalize direct sexual contact with the girl. I'd say this is definitely one of those times where the child would be better off never seeing that parent again.

[Webmaster]

If it hasn't already happened, it would only be a question of time IMO before mom and boyfriend would find a way to rationalize direct sexual contact with the girl. I'd say this is definitely one of those times where the child would be better off never seeing that parent again.
You picked up on that too huh? I think the term the LEO's use is "grooming", and it is very clear to me that this child was being groomed by both parents for future sexual contact.

Dave, you have a gift for understatement. "Filthy Pigs" does not even come close to my sentiments.

[Gordon Nore]

You picked up on that too huh? I think the term the LEO's use is "grooming", and it is very clear to me that this child was being groomed by both parents for future sexual contact.

That's the word. I couldn't think of it.

[Jaclyn]

You picked up on that too huh? I think the term the LEO's use is "grooming", and it is very clear to me that this child was being groomed by both parents for future sexual contact.

Oh that's just sick... :fear:

Wasn't there a former Hollywood couple who would also have sex in front of their kids? Just can't remember who they are.

[David Craik]

Dave, you have a gift for understatement. "Filthy Pigs" does not even come close to my sentiments.

Well, Robert, some things aren't appropriate to post here. I do apologize for giving pigs a bad name, however.

[Brian Dugger]

It's a depraved society we live in these days. Gee thanks, Robert for dropping a lead line on us like this around Valentine's considering the content. This could be a marked point of support for court appointed sterilization.

[Dennis Monk]

People like that should never be allowed around kids again; they probably will but they shouldn't.

[Brian Dugger]

People like that should never be allowed around kids again; they probably will but they shouldn't.
People like that should not even be allowed to engaged in anything which even remotely emulates procreation, let alone think about it. The other facet of this is that the couple in 'question' still have this pubescent chemical rage as well as mentality and still have the audacity to believe they're the ones to be teaching highly sensitive, discreet, and regarded conjugal matters.:ticks:

[AndrewSimonsen]

as well as mentality and still have the audacity to believe they're the ones to be teaching highly sensitive, discreet, and regarded conjugal matters.:ticks:
As parents, under normal circumstances they should be the ones to teach their children about sex. Not like that though. The other option is to let the schools which can barely teach math and English tell your child everything. I really think the reason that most kids learn all that from school is that their parents just dread what could be an embarrassing conversation.

[Brian Dugger]

As parents, under normal circumstances they should be the ones to teach their children about sex. Not like that though. The other option is to let the schools which can barely teach math and English tell your child everything. I really think the reason that most kids learn all that from school is that their parents just dread what could be an embarrassing conversation.

Don't mean to rain on your parade, but when has your ten year old come to you asking about structure and fuction of the x and y chromosomes? "How does that work, if I'm here you gave me a 'y' so how'd my brother get a 'y'?"
Attempting to put mitosis and meiosis on the same shelf as the sexual congress (because conjugal imparts the idea that the man and woman are supposed to be married) or "boot knockin" to use the hood vernacular, is quite a challenge. It can be done, but with discretion. My own parents couldn't answer me then and sho' couldn't answer the question my ten year old posed to me. It was determination that taught me to make the most of the situation at school and also when nobody else would. Now I can say most assuredly that I can and have answered all his questions to this point. When trust has been compromised. it is difficult to ask anyone for help. Trust is a comprehensive term and I can safely say that Prata and his wanton winch pretty much destroyed it for the daughter. It's gonna be a difficult road through puberty/adolescence for the young lady.

[AndrewSimonsen]

A couple of issues:

1-I doubt a kid is going to be asking about chromosomes.

2-That isn't even what sex-ed consists of now. The kind schools give falls into one of two categories:
-Don't have sex, never, don't do it. If you do you'll get diseases which will make your parts turn black and fall off before you die a nasty horrible disgusting death.
-Always use a condom, always, just do it. If you don't you'll get diseases which will make your parts turn black and fall off before you die a nasty horrible disgusting death.

They sometimes show pictures of the diseases, they sometimes show videos of babies being born.

That is all sex-ed is. They don't get into how reproduction works, they leave that for science class. Also, I never said that parents would be the ideal ones to teach a child all of the complexities of the science behind human reproduction. What I said was that:

As parents, under normal circumstances they should be the ones to teach their children about sex.

[Eliz]

1-I doubt a kid is going to be asking about chromosomes.

And you do know my son, right? :laugh: Mr. logical - you can't believe the questions we were fielding. :eek:

As for your comments on sexual education - very close to true. We closely monitored those lessons and they were very generic. You are right in that parents have an obligation to speak to their children - to make the information more specific. Hey, if the truth be known, I was happy they were at least addressing abstenance as a choice.

[Brian R. VanCise]

That is a really, really sad case! Those two adults are just sick!

[Brian Dugger]

A couple of issues:

1-I doubt a kid is going to be asking about chromosomes.

Alright, junior-here it comes. When you have your own, you will find out for yourself. This is the curse every parent gives their children when they make really foolish decisions and comments. You my friend have inherited, no invoked said curse upon yourself. Now from what I can tell, you just barely meet the criteria to be contributing to the gene pool, let alone passing off commentary regarding family matters. When you do meet those prerequisites, I'm thinking your mind will change. Until then, carefully consider who you cast any dispersion onto regarding this or any other matter. You might not find yourself being handled so kindly.:e-wack:

[Abbax8]

Rush serves two terms, Ann becomes president with Michael Savage as vice-president.

Peace

Dennis

[Abbax8]

Some how I posted this in the wrong thread, should be with Liberals Worst Nightmare.

Sorry

Peace

Dennis

[Brian Dugger]

Rush serves two terms, Ann becomes president with Michael Savage as vice-president.

Peace

Dennis
Wait, Dennis, where'd that come from?
Nevermind I see, now that I've found the six foot crowbar to excise my head from my backside.

[Webmaster]

Well, here's the latest and they got off with probation. It figures. :rolleyes:

Couple Sentenced For Having Sex In Front Of Child (http://wbztv.com/local/local_story_078184652.html)

[Gordon Nore]

...to probation and a three-year suspended sentence after they pleaded no contest to a felony child neglect charge.

The original news link wouldn't open for me, so I couldn't re-read it. There must be more to this story. Notice the charge named in this story is "child neglect." Was that the only charge? Nothing else on the books to charge them with? Plea arrangement?

[Brian Dugger]

Well, here's the latest and they got off with probation. It figures. :rolleyes:

Couple Sentenced For Having Sex In Front Of Child (http://wbztv.com/local/local_story_078184652.html)
Well, I'm glad to see it oooonly took a couple of years to wrangle out all the details. Cripes!

[Aikidog]

There is no question of this being Sex-ed. This is just child abuse plain and simple. I think harsher penalties for child abuse need to be applied all over the world.

People don't seem to get that once children are abused there is a big chance they will grow up to be child abusers. Its a sickness that has to be nipped in the bud.

[JiuJitsuRabbit]

While I am not advocating sex in front of children, I have seen programs about other countries and how the USA is amazingly prude comparatively.

Sex on prime time TV, and sexual imagery publicly displayed such as genital fountains ect in parks.

I am curious how people in those countries would view this case. Any comment on it from experiance?

[Dennis Monk]

I have seen programs about other countries and how the USA is amazingly prude comparatively.

Sex on prime time TV, and sexual imagery publicly displayed such as genital fountains ect in parks.
The only thing this tells me is that there are places where morals have all but been evacuated. Thank goodness, with all of the garbage already going on in our country, we can still seem prudish compared to others.

[JiuJitsuRabbit]

Well, the sex on TV is 90% of Europe. Even Britain has a show called topless darts on the BBC.

The statues is more of an Asian thing, I would have to really look for an example though. I am just amazed when I hear a new story that a child may have seen genitalia and people detonate. Many people I know experienced sex at 14 and I think this would happen less or at least happen more responsibly if people would educate their children appropriately.

What I find weird is people using better judgment than this couple could even face similar charges for educating their children. Just like people face charges for disciplining their children.

It is wonderful we now have organizations to police and protect children in horrible situations, but I also fear what hand cuffing I will face by the time I have children.

[Jaclyn]

I am just amazed when I hear a new story that a child may have seen genitalia and people detonate.

I would say there's a huge difference between a child who "may have seen genitalia" and a child constantly being subjected to live porn, starring her own parents.


Just like people face charges for disciplining their children.

It is wonderful we now have organizations to police and protect children in horrible situations, but I also fear what hand cuffing I will face by the time I have children.

There I would have to agree with you. There are definitely some "discipline" techniques parents should not be allowed to do, but the legal limits of these just keep changing. It's almost scary to even raise your voice at a child...

[Dennis Monk]

I would say there's a huge difference between a child who "may have seen genitalia" and a child constantly being subjected to live porn, starring her own parents.

Thank you. Common sense statement there Jaclyn.

[JiuJitsuRabbit]

[QUOTE=Jaclyn]I would say there's a huge difference between a child who "may have seen genitalia" and a child constantly being subjected to live porn, starring her own parents.[QUOTE]

This wasn't a reference to this story, but mostly my own local news. They get in huge uproar when anything relatively innocent comes to light.

Kids looking stuff up on the internet or something similar.

[David Craik]

In many of the countries where sex is less taboo (such as most if not all of Europe), rape and pedophilia are next to unheard-of compared with the US. It seems the more prudish a society is the more aberrations present themselves. Man, I miss Italian game shows. ;)


Not that this has anything to do with the sick weirdos in the story though.

[Abbax8]

While I am not advocating sex in front of children, I have seen programs about other countries and how the USA is amazingly prude comparatively.

Sex on prime time TV, and sexual imagery publicly displayed such as genital fountains ect in parks.

I am curious how people in those countries would view this case. Any comment on it from experiance?

Yes there is alot of sex in the movies and on TV. There is also alot of abuse of women and children and the amount is going up. When people are viewed as objects to be used for our pleasure, does it surprise anyone that abuse and neglect increases.

Sex is not an activity to be indulged in for the enjoyment of the masses. It is meant to be unitive and exclusive for the couple to increase the survivability of the family and the welfare of the children.

Peace

Dennis

[Ramirez]

Yes there is alot of sex in the movies and on TV. There is also alot of abuse of women and children and the amount is going up. When people are viewed as objects to be used for our pleasure, does it surprise anyone that abuse and neglect increases.

Dennis

Leaving aside the original subject of this post which was freaking sick, you are making a causal relationship here, you could also say there is a lot of violence in the media which is causing the abuse of women and children.

If you could establish that countries with a more relaxed view of sex, say France , Italy, and some Norwegian countries have a higher rate of women and child abuse then you might prove your point.

[Cliff Hargrave]

In many of the countries where sex is less taboo (such as most if not all of Europe), rape and pedophilia are next to unheard-of compared with the US. It seems the more prudish a society is the more aberrations present themselves. Man, I miss Italian game shows. ;)


Not that this has anything to do with the sick weirdos in the story though.

I think that is a perception rather than a reality. Rape and pedophilia occurs in every society, just not reported as much as it is here.

[Abbax8]

Leaving aside the original subject of this post which was freaking sick, you are making a causal relationship here, you could also say there is a lot of violence in the media which is causing the abuse of women and children.

If you could establish that countries with a more relaxed view of sex, say France , Italy, and some Norwegian countries have a higher rate of women and child abuse then you might prove your point.

I remember a study that was done sometime ago of prisoners serving life sentences for violent crimes. There were many commonalities among the men questioned. One of the strongest correlating factors was use of pornography.

Another study released in the last few years demonstrated that viewing porn is as addicting as some hard core drugs.

Now we can argue that what is on TV is or is not porn. Certainly it is not hard core, but every year it seems the envelope is pushed back.

In my opinion, the ideal is one man and one woman. Anything that interferes or detracts from that is something to avoid. Another study asked men who had viewed men's magazines on a casual basis if they could remember the pictures they have seen. In some cases men reported being able to see clearly in their minds pictures they had viewed 20 years ago. Marriage counselors report that pornography is a frequent factor in the breakup.

Peace

Dennis

[Ramirez]

I remember a study that was done sometime ago of prisoners serving life sentences for violent crimes. There were many commonalities among the men questioned. One of the strongest correlating factors was use of pornography.

Dennis

Leaving aside an unreferenced study, that could be a symptom not a cause. Almost every grown man in the in Western society has viewed pornography, most 13 year old boys have Playboys and yet you don't see the vast majority of men in jail for violent crimes.

I am guessing violent images on in the media would likely also have played a part in that study you mention...do you want to ban action films?

[Abbax8]

Leaving aside an unreferenced study, that could be a symptom not a cause. Almost every grown man in the in Western society has viewed pornography, most 13 year old boys have Playboys and yet you don't see the vast majority of men in jail for violent crimes.

I am guessing violent images on in the media would likely also have played a part in that study you mention...do you want to ban action films?

First Mark I'm not advocating banning anything as that seems to always have the effect of enhancing its desirability.

Second here is a link that summarizes some of the studies.

http://www.ewtn.com/library/PROLENC/ENCYC134.HTM

Peace

Dennis