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Tang-Soo-Architect
02-21-2007, 08:00
Sip Soo or Ship Soo is my next form that I am learning. I was wondering iof anyone has any background information or history onthe form or any opinions on it in general, irrespective of TSD school or style.
cheers
MasterPistella
02-21-2007, 11:14
I have some info on paper. I can see if I can type it up or maybe mail it to you. I did a search for it just now, & didn't find too much.
I'm not going to be learning Sip Soo for quite a long time myself, so I can't really say a whole lot about our performance of it.
Historically, though, Sip Soo is one of the forms that we've borrowed from the Okinawan / Japanese lineages. They may know the form as Jitte.
X_plosion
02-22-2007, 00:33
"Sip Soo" is Korean for "Ten Hands", which Translates as "Jitte" in Japanese.
Yes, It was carried over form Shotokan's original curriculum and given some Korean "flavoring". There are no kicks in the Kata, but some very nice looking hand strikes.
Chizikunbo
04-20-2007, 09:52
Ship Soo (Sino-Korean translating as 10 Hands) also known as Jutte (Jitte), the form comes to Tang Soo Do from Japanese Karate, of which came from Okinawan To-Te, or which came from Southern Chinese Chuanfa due to the large number of Chinese who were living on Okinawa.
The form is derived from Southern Chinese Tiger/Crane fist, which was a style made popular by such folks as Wong Yan Lum, Tit Kiu Sam, Jao Tai, Wong Kay Ying, Sou Hak Fu, Tit Ji Chan, Wong Ching Haw, Sou Hut Yee, Tam Jai Kwan, and Wong Fei Hung (AKA 'Ten Tigers of Kwantung'), all prominent figures in a resistence to the Ching Dynasty. The arts roots are in the southern shaolin temple, and is still being passed on in modern forms in such southern chinese arts as hun gar, and choy li fut, as well as our very own "Ship Soo" hyung.
Shipsoo (Jut-te) is known to have been taught by Yasutsune "Anko" Itosu (1830-1915) in Okinawa. But, I don't have any reference to his instructors, Sokon (Bushi) Matsumura (1797-1889) or Kosuku Matsumura
(1820-1889), teaching this form. Perhaps a search starting with Yasutsune Itosu could help you find more information. One of Itosu's students was Gichin Funakoshi, who founded Shotokan.
R. McLain
Mr Depew
06-09-2007, 10:11
There are no kicks in the Kata, but some very nice looking hand strikes.
Not sure how many versions of Sip Soo there is out there, but the Sip Soo I learned has 3 outside to inside cresent kicks.
Sip Soo = translates to "ten hands", pattern represents the chineese symbol for ten "+", animal symbol is the Bear.
rick_tsdmdk
06-10-2008, 15:20
"Ten Hands" probbly cmes from the Cinese naming ffors, where they would call it 10 Hands, 20 Hands, 30 Hands, etc
Some Masters like to say the fom has somethig to do with fighting 10 people olearning to fight as though you have 10 hands.........simply not true
There is no historical connection of this form to te Bear - except in HK's book, Soo Bahk Do Dae Kahm
Hello, I studied the Jido Kwan variant of Sip Soo Hyung and I am also familiar with the Tiger Crane style of Kwantung (Canton) and other than being martial art forms there is no other relationship to each other. Tiger Crane is a form of Cantonese style Chinese Martial art and Sip Soo Hyung (Jutte kata) is a decendant of Fukienese style Chinese Martial art.
The above poster Chizikunbo is very mistaken or has been mis-informed. The Ten Tigers of Kwan Tung, where the 10 best martial artists of the province Kwantung (Canton). The Ten hands form of Korean Karate is named because of Ten specific open hand movements in the form. In the Ji Do Kwan variant there are 5 double palm techniques and 5 single palm techniques, hence "Ten Hands". If it were 10 punches it would be called Sip Kwon Hyung but because its open hands, the chinese character Shou (soo) is used to denote open hands. Hope this helps.
Mr. Daly
12-17-2011, 04:16
I was taught Ship Soo (Jit Deh) by Sabomnin Cheong Wha-Young. It was with lower, slower stances and has grappling/throwing applications. In the second Tang Soo Do (Soo Bahk Do) book it shows the bear because the "palm-hand" technique resemble the bear-claw hand of certain northern kung fu styles. These technique can be interpreted as joint locks/breaks as well. Some styles such as Okinawan Kempo have the crescent kicks, but Master Cheong did not teach them as part of the form, but there were two front kicks in the form when I learned it in 1980, they may have taken them out since then.
Don
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