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I just picked up another addition. :D
A Winchester 94 lever action 30-30.
Couldn't pass it up. Saw one of my SWAT buddies about to put it in the car and I asked if I can see it. After he saw me drooling over it (always wanted one since I was a kid) he asked if I wanted it. I, of course, said yes.
So he sold it to me right there and then.
Good condition. Needs to be reblued, but the action is smooth and the stock i very good condition. Although, I'm going to refinish.
Only problem was I can't shoot it as I nor anyone else had any ammo.
Pics forthcoming this weekend as I'm too tired right now.
Brian R. VanCise
05-04-2007, 07:42
Cool Tony! :cool:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/aburena/DSC02260.jpg
elder999
05-04-2007, 11:42
Sweet, that. Was my first deer rifle, and i have it still....
Cliff Hargrave
05-04-2007, 15:26
Only problem was I can't shoot it as I nor anyone else had any ammo.
You don't have a Wal Mart near you?
I want to buy a Trapper (the 16" barrel) one day. I think they are sweet.
My friend has one that he put ghost ring sights on.
http://www.randymays.com/94trappr.jpg
Lever action 30-30 - congratulations on what looks like a fine weapon, welcome "rifleman"
AndrewSimonsen
05-04-2007, 16:34
You don't have a Wal Mart near you?[/IMG]
Surprisingly not all Wal-Marts have armories as well stocked as those in the south.
Dennis Monk
05-04-2007, 16:44
30-30 ammunition should be one of the easier rifle cartidges to find.
That is unless you live in a highly repressive, anti-gun state like New Jersey.
Oh man, I didn't mean it to come out like that. :rolleyes:
I got the ammo and shot it today.
The problem, and I should have been clear, was at the moment I got the gun noone at our Police range or any of the shooters up there had the ammo.
Finding them in the stores was not a problem. I went and got a box today.
Lets just say I felt like a kid playing cowboy today shooting it. :D
I have a Marlin 30-30. It's not as 'original' as yours, but they are really cool. I deer hunt with mine and, where legal, hogs. They are accurate, but shoot a rainbow arc, so you might have fun shooting prone and from elevations.
They are accurate, but shoot a rainbow arc, so you might have fun shooting prone and from elevations.
I only shot it at 50 yards. I set up some bowling pins and couldn't figure out why I was missing. Wasn't until I set up a paper target and noticed the sights were slightly off to the left. A quick adjustment and I was knocking the pins down like I was at a carnival.
Try it at 75 and 100. you'll be surprised at the drop. Then get up a hill or in a tree. It's amazing how it changes. The 30-30 is more remarkable than flatter shooting rounds and can make you learn a lot about ballistics.
So I was curious as to the date of manufacture of the rifle so I did a little research.
Turns out mine is pre '64. It falls between 1950 and 1964. The serial numbers were re-aligned to start at 270000. Mine falls within the 1700000.
I find that to be pretty cool although I can't articulate why.
As far as value I don't know yet
...I find that to be pretty cool although I can't articulate why.
As far as value I don't know yet
Maybe it was shot by a real cowboy, like Gene Autry.;)
Cliff Hargrave
05-16-2007, 16:46
Turns out mine is pre '64. It falls between 1950 and 1964. The serial numbers were re-aligned to start at 270000. Mine falls within the 1700000.
I find that to be pretty cool although I can't articulate why.
As far as value I don't know yet
Is 1964 when they added the dreaded cross bolt safety?
I have one.
FWIW do not try to **** it with the spin move from 'The Rifleman' It is a top breech rifle, the bullet will just fall out on the ground. :)
Matthew Jones
05-17-2007, 13:14
So I guess **** gets censored? So the censor thing doesn't understand the difference between **** in reference to a gun and **** in reference to something else??? :laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX2oZ6Kv_qo
Another more exciting version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOMzVDo9wVA
Rifleman 28
Bad Guys 0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTRZ88WMWQQ
Is 1964 when they added the dreaded cross bolt safety?
Don't know. I'll research it and see if I can find out.
Rifleman 28
Bad Guys 0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTRZ88WMWQQ
Man, that was good. Love those old westerns. While the show was before my time I remember watching the reruns as a kid. I guess that's where the my love of the rifle developed.
Funny, but until now I didn't realized he shot lefty.
David Craik
05-18-2007, 04:54
Great rifle Tony. Holy crap, you got something that doesn't have a 30 rd magazine and plastic all over it! :D
Just kidding. That type and caliber has probably felled more deer in the U.S. than any other. I have the Marlin, like Richard, because I preferred the pistol grip over a straight comb. Great brush gun. Like Cliff, I'd love to have a carbine model as a camp rifle.
I just can't shake this visual of Tony patrolling the streets of New Jersey on horseback dispensing frontier justice to assorted ne'er-do-wells. :D
Great rifle Tony. Holy crap, you got something that doesn't have a 30 rd magazine and plastic all over it! :D
Hey now, while I'm into modern ones I like some of the older types as well and this is one of them.
Just kidding. That type and caliber has probably felled more deer in the U.S. than any other. I have the Marlin, like Richard, because I preferred the pistol grip over a straight comb. Great brush gun. Like Cliff, I'd love to have a carbine model as a camp rifle.
Funny, as I have never been taught, nor never been hunting. Nothing against it, just never had the opportunity growing up.
I just can't shake this visual of Tony patrolling the streets of New Jersey on horseback dispensing frontier justice to assorted ne'er-do-wells. :D
Now that would be a sight. :laugh:
New guns suck.
For instance ...... pump action shotguns. The pinnacle of design was the model 12 Winchester. Problem is it is way too expensive to build guns with that kind of craftsmanship.
Coincidently I just caught the tali end of an episode of The Rifleman. My wife was of course making fun of me.
Now I am watching another great classic, The Magnificent Seven.
The Rifleman was a classic. However, you can't really fast stroke a model 1894 - even if you put a big loop lever on it, long action.
It's the model 66's and 73's which are most popular to those that want to be speedy with the lever gun. Unfortunately, their actions can't handle loads of any power, hence the birth of the model 1894 in the first place. It's amazing how a design that is over a century old, in a gun that was made before I was born, can not only still be so much fun, but also practical and accurate.
Is 1964 when they added the dreaded cross bolt safety?
Whilst doing research I found two good articles on the rifle. The first one puts my rifle around 1950.. The second answers your question. According to the article the year was 1992.
http://www.leverguns.com/articles/winchester_classic.htm
http://www.chuckhawks.com/win_94.htm
Cliff Hargrave
05-20-2007, 12:19
Then what is the significance of 1964?
Then what is the significance of 1964?
From what I gather only the re-alignment of the serial numbers.
David Craik
05-20-2007, 13:35
As it says in the second article in 1964 the design was changed slightly to reduce production costs. Stamped steel parts were substituted in non-critical areas for formerly forged steel parts. The most visible of these was the shell carrier, which raised cartridges from the magazine to the breech. The loading gate became a stamped and riveted part, and hollow steel roll pins replaced the solid steel action pins. These changes were pretty minor, and did not affect the usefulness of the rifle, but Winchester purists were furious at the time. The rifle was a classic design that they did not want changed.
In 1982 the design changed to angled ejection to permit the use of a scope, and in '92 the crossbolt safety was added. A pre-'64 model is worth about 50% more than an equivalent post-'64 gun.
As it says in the second article in 1964 the design was changed slightly to reduce production costs. Stamped steel parts were substituted in non-critical areas for formerly forged steel parts. The most visible of these was the shell carrier, which raised cartridges from the magazine to the breech. The loading gate became a stamped and riveted part, and hollow steel roll pins replaced the solid steel action pins. These changes were pretty minor, and did not affect the usefulness of the rifle, but Winchester purists were furious at the time. The rifle was a classic design that they did not want changed.
In 1982 the design changed to angled ejection to permit the use of a scope, and in '92 the crossbolt safety was added. A pre-'64 model is worth about 50% more than an equivalent post-'64 gun.
Doh! I've read so many articles looking for the answer to Cliff's question that I complete glossed over that.
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