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Zui Lung
11-24-2007, 22:16
Does anyone have a site where i can learn some basic bench form?
Does anyone have a site where i can learn some basic bench form?
You can't learn from a site. You need a teacher.
sean_stonehart
11-24-2007, 22:28
You can't learn from a site. You need a teacher.
What he said...
Horse bench is a rather advanced weapon & isn't something learned without solid basics with the 4 primaries and years under your belt.
Webmaster
11-24-2007, 22:33
Horse bench is a rather advanced weapon & isn't something learned without solid basics with the 4 primaries and years under your belt.
Yeah, but he's a 12 year old almost Master! :laugh:
Prince Loeffler
11-24-2007, 22:51
Does anyone have a site where i can learn some basic bench form?
Actually you can learn from video or the internet Here's a site in full color: Bench (http://www.gardengatemagazine.com/main/pdf/bench30.pdf)
Enjoy and let us know how it turned out !
Zui Lung
11-24-2007, 22:55
Yeah, but he's a 12 year old almost Master! :laugh:
first: its almost a master.
second: when i whent to a karate class, i was short on money so i whent to karate for a few weeks, there was a 6 year old brown belt, two belts away from being a master.
its called learning from an early age.
Zui Lung
11-24-2007, 22:57
i understand that you realy can learn much unless its from a teacher but i cant find one anywhere in my area and luck favors thoughs who are prepared.
Webmaster
11-24-2007, 22:57
first: i said im almost a master.
second: when i whent to a karate class, i was short on money so i whent to karate for a few weeks, there was a 6 year old brown belt, two belts away from being a master.
its called learning from an early age.
Being a black belt in any art is not the same as being a Master. Generally, most arts classify someone as a "Master" at around 6th degree black belt which on average will take about 25 years of training. 1st degree black belts are still considered "advanced beginners" if anything.
Also, just because the McDojo you once attended had a 6 year old brown belt should not lead you to believe this is the norm. Most dojo will not promote any child of that age to that rank.
sean_stonehart
11-24-2007, 22:59
Yeah, but he's a 12 year old almost Master! :laugh:
I missed that one... my bad. :eek:
sean_stonehart
11-24-2007, 23:04
first: its almost a master.
second: when i whent to a karate class, i was short on money so i whent to karate for a few weeks, there was a 6 year old brown belt, two belts away from being a master.
its called learning from an early age.
First ... Ummm no... brown belt is a stop on the way to becoming kinda sorta almost a serious type student. About 15 years as a black belt would qualify you as a serious student, dedicated even & possibly on the road to mastery. Still lots or speed bumps ahead at that point...
Second... I started at an "early age" back in the 80's when your parents were roughly my age. I'm not even close enough ego wise to use any kind of title concerning me & martial arts. I'm the senior student in my school, have the experience & title to rule the roost when my sifu isn't there. Instead I prefer people call me by my name, not postitional title & not go overboard with it.
Learning at an early age almost means manners & humility. Who's your sifu?
sean_stonehart
11-24-2007, 23:06
i understand that you realy can learn much unless its from a teacher but i cant find one anywhere in my area and luck favors thoughs who are prepared.
Luck is one thing... skill is another.
Playing with an weapon that can weigh upwards of 15 pounds being used in a fashion your body doesn't understand or has the physical conditioning to handle is a receipe to run your parent's healthcare insurance costs up...
Zui Lung
11-24-2007, 23:06
Being a black belt in any art is not the same as being a Master. Generally, most arts classify someone as a "Master" at around 6th degree black belt which on average will take about 25 years of training. 1st degree black belts are still considered "advanced beginners" if anything.
Also, just because the McDojo you once attended had a 6 year old brown belt should not lead you to believe this is the norm. Most dojo will not promote any child of that age to that rank.
Sorry i usualy call black belts masters because in my martial arts thats where you stop learning techniques and forms.
Sorry i usualy call black belts masters because in my martial arts thats where you stop learning techniques and forms.
You never stop learning techniques nor forms. One might memorize them but never stop learning them.
I've memorized all my forms almost 20 years ago. I'm still learning them today.
Webmaster
11-24-2007, 23:12
Sorry i usualy call black belts masters because in my martial arts thats where you stop learning techniques and forms.
I am not sure what the particulars are of your art, but in most arts, you never stop learning. Even with techniques and forms you know, there are always things that you must continue to practice and perfect. You will find that even the old and broken down Karateka spend hours perfecting their reverse punch, and old and broken down Judoka practicing their falls. I am sure that the Chinese arts are no less concerned with the perfection of basics.
sean_stonehart
11-24-2007, 23:13
Sorry i usualy call black belts masters because in my martial arts thats where you stop learning techniques and forms.
Who's your Sifu?
sean_stonehart
11-24-2007, 23:18
I am not sure what the particulars are of your art
Me neither but I've got my suspicions. :up:
I am sure that the Chinese arts are no less concerned with the perfection of basics.
Basics in CMA are just like JMA\KMA\OMA\FMA\(insert)MA... lifeblood of what you do. Without basics you've got junk. In CMA you can have all the cool sounds & poses & hands positions & noises & most expensive silk uniforms & all that jazz, but if your horse stance sucks, well... there you have it for the rest.
Zui Lung
11-24-2007, 23:34
You never stop learning techniques nor forms. One might memorize them but never stop learning them.
I've memorized all my forms almost 20 years ago. I'm still learning them today.
I meant like learning as in i have never known this befor now. ofcourse you still must practise them.
AndrewSimonsen
11-24-2007, 23:48
I meant like learning, as in i have never known this before now. Of course you still must practice them.
Judging from your response, everything they said went right over your head.
Zui Lung
11-25-2007, 00:09
Judging from your response, everything they said went right over your head.
No...... What i meant was what i meant was that for my art around black belt you have memorized everything there is in the style of kung fu. Like right now my sifu is focusing me on chin na and im learing moves i never new existed.
Prince Loeffler
11-25-2007, 00:12
No...... What i meant was what i meant was that for my art around black belt you have memorized everything there is in the style of kung fu. Like right now my sifu is focusing me on chin na and im learing moves i never new existed.
Learning ceased when you ceased to exist, young Nathan ! You're 12 years old, you have much to learn !
Nathan, do you train under Ashida Kim?
Jeff Cook
Dale Dugas
11-25-2007, 08:03
Nice one jeff.
Being 12, you need to not worry about much other than getting the foundation of your art ingrained in your memory so that you then can start to go through it and examine it from every angle.
That takes years.
The secrets are nothing more than knowing more permutations of the material you learned as a beginner.
Strive to learn it and then examine it from all angles and see what you can find.
It is a lifelong journey.
Good luck.
sean_stonehart
11-25-2007, 08:09
No...... What i meant was what i meant was that for my art around black belt you have memorized everything there is in the style of kung fu.
BS meter is moving way past acceptable limits now... don't how much more she can take Cap'n.
Like right now my sifu is focusing me on chin na and im learing moves i never new existed.
Nathan... this is the last time I'm asking... who is your sifu? When somebody like you, 12 or not, comes in as you have spouting off as you have, I want to know who has neglected your most important training.
sean_stonehart
11-25-2007, 08:10
Nathan, do you train under Ashida Kim?
Jeff Cook
Jeff... he'd have to kill us all if he told us he did...
Nice one jeff.
Dale, my question is serious. I am not trying to be funny. I am looking for a rational explanation for his behavior.
Jeff Cook
Dale Lackey
11-25-2007, 11:22
Dale, my question is serious. I am not trying to be funny. I am looking for a rational explanation for his behavior.
Jeff Cook
Yeah, he is 12 and been training less than a year, probably. :bow: Much of what is going to be said in this thread will be wasted, but I've been wrong before. :laugh:
You can probably find some vidoe clips of Bobby Knight somewhere.
Zui Lung
11-25-2007, 17:11
BS meter is moving way past acceptable limits now... don't how much more she can take Cap'n.
Nathan... this is the last time I'm asking... who is your sifu? When somebody like you, 12 or not, comes in as you have spouting off as you have, I want to know who has neglected your most important training.
Sifu sagorivich, I think its Bosnian.
He doesnt have a website.
Zui Lung
11-25-2007, 17:24
Yeah, he is 12 and been training less than a year, probably. :bow: Much of what is going to be said in this thread will be wasted, but I've been wrong before. :laugh:
I have been in my school for almost 4 years now but i dont just go there once a week or something i go there every day for 2-3hours.
Webmaster
11-25-2007, 17:29
I have been in my school for almost 4 years now but i dont just go there once a week or something i go there every day for 2-3hours.
That explains your spelling and grammar. Perhaps if you put as much time into school as you claim to do with your martial art, you wouldn't be destined to be serving up burgers and fries at McDonald's when you get older.
I have been in my school for almost 4 years now but i dont just go there once a week or something i go there every day for 2-3hours.
Hate to break it to you but that doesn't make you any better that someone that goes there consistently 2 or 3 times a week for four years.
Prince Loeffler
11-25-2007, 17:37
Nathan ! Its time to shut us doubters here on this thread ! If you're so good at what you claimed to be, training for 4 years everyday for 2-3 hours. Care to put a video of yourself performing your best form ????
Enough with the talk, let us see some action eh Jackson !
Sounds like an after school program. The Kenpo store here in town has one of those.
:laugh: "Kenpo store?" Ed, do they run blue light specials? ;)
Jeff Cook
sean_stonehart
11-25-2007, 22:09
Sifu sagorivich, I think its Bosnian.
He doesnt have a website.
And that tells me nothing. That's actually what I was expecting.
Who's his teacher?
What's your jibengong consist of?
How about qigong & gongli training?
What's your goushou routine?
How about your ditang training?
Jonathan Randall
11-25-2007, 23:47
That explains your spelling and grammar. Perhaps if you put as much time into school as you claim to do with your martial art, you wouldn't be destined to be serving up burgers and fries at McDonald's when you get older.
Good advice, which I am afraid he will ignore.
One thing I like about Jhoon Rhee schools is that students, IIRC, are required to maintain a B average to be eligible for testing. Priorities...
Actually you can learn from video or the internet Here's a site in full color: Bench (http://www.gardengatemagazine.com/main/pdf/bench30.pdf)
Enjoy and let us know how it turned out !
That is the bench my daughter an I made for our first wood project together.
We made the flat seat variation. But, it turned out great. It is still on our front porch.
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