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Jonathan Randall
01-09-2008, 10:08
SK Ukemi Techniques for Slipping on a Banana Peel... (per moderator request)

What types of falling and evasion techniques does Shorinji Kempo teach that could be useful for those times when we slip on banana peels?

Tripitaka of AA
01-09-2008, 10:43
We typically practice our ukemi on wooden floors.

Interestingly the dynamics of the classic banana-skin pratfall are contrary to most of the "safe" breakfalls, whereby a person can tuck into a ball and roll. The typical scenario would be a person running or walking fast in a forwards direction, the slippery surface takes them unawares, sending feet forwards, head backwards, and in a really good one, the person will end up horizontal but still several feet in the air... to drop like a stone on their bottom, or back, but hopefully not their head.

There are some great examples in pro wrestling or the tackles form American Football of a similar fall... how are they prepared for, I wonder?

wab25
01-09-2008, 11:01
Japanese Jujitsu teaches breakfalls that work for the banana peel slip. I have taken two such falls, one on a tiled floor and the other on concret. I was fortunate to excute to good high back falls, and land safely. I don't know if they are a part of Shorinji Kempo, but David did ask how these types of falls can be prepared for.

Nina
01-09-2008, 18:40
I am really interested who ever slipped on a banana? Isn`t that unrealistic today?

Tripitaka of AA
01-09-2008, 19:05
Koryu arts still have relevance today. The Banana skin fall is still witnessed in the modern age, although it may be more commnly witnessed as the ice-slide, or the polished-floor-woooooops.

From a Shorinji Kempo perspective, I have told the story before of how I saw Yamasaki Sensei of Hombu fall on his posterior due to a wet floor... his training saved him from too much embarassment.

Jonathan Randall
01-09-2008, 20:53
We typically practice our ukemi on wooden floors.

Interestingly the dynamics of the classic banana-skin pratfall are contrary to most of the "safe" breakfalls, whereby a person can tuck into a ball and roll. The typical scenario would be a person running or walking fast in a forwards direction, the slippery surface takes them unawares, sending feet forwards, head backwards, and in a really good one, the person will end up horizontal but still several feet in the air... to drop like a stone on their bottom, or back, but hopefully not their head.

There are some great examples in pro wrestling or the tackles form American Football of a similar fall... how are they prepared for, I wonder?

Good point. I know, that the times I have started to fall forward (usually while carrying something), if I have the chance I drop my weight vertically and attempt a backward, rather than forward breakfall. Of course, in an immediate fall scenario such as the hypothetical SK Banana Peel, there is no time for this.

Jaclyn
01-10-2008, 08:09
The Banana skin fall is still witnessed in the modern age, although it may be more commnly witnessed as the ice-slide, or the polished-floor-woooooops.

Ahhh yes, the famous ice-slide... Every winter, the first few days are filled with such amusing (as long as it happens to someone else and not me) ice-slide slapstick scenes. Pretty interesting, actually, how creatively people can flail their limbs while attempting (utterly futilely) to regain their balance on icy patches. :o

wab25
01-10-2008, 11:20
I am really interested who ever slipped on a banana? Isn`t that unrealistic today?
I was walking through the rain, late to class, and stepped in onto the tile floor in too much of a hurry. Next thing I knew, my feet were above my head.