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JMC
03-24-2008, 11:02
I'm trying to find out if any members know / have heard of Cornish style wrestling or if this art has died out?

My interest is that many of the moves I've heard of seem very similar to Judo (e.g. flying mare = shoulder throw, rolling hip lock = hip throw) and I'd like to find out how far the similarities go and what the differences are.

I'm exploring how physical body types affect the local approach to the combative arts and how this leads to similar moves across geographies (e.g. stocky people tend towards grappling moves).

Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.

wildwills
03-24-2008, 13:00
I'm trying to find out if any members know / have heard of Cornish style wrestling or if this art has died out?

My interest is that many of the moves I've heard of seem very similar to Judo (e.g. flying mare = shoulder throw, rolling hip lock = hip throw) and I'd like to find out how far the similarities go and what the differences are.

I'm exploring how physical body types affect the local approach to the combative arts and how this leads to similar moves across geographies (e.g. stocky people tend towards grappling moves).

Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.

I was always under the impression that the "Flying Mare" was similar to Ude Gaeshi in essence because of it being an "arm bar throw".

wildwills
03-24-2008, 13:13
Do you mean something like this?

http://www.judoinfo.com/images/nauta/udegaeshi.htm

or more like this?

http://books.google.com/books?id=iKvg8QBL3WcC&pg=PA60&lpg=PA60&dq=flying+mare+wrestling&source=web&ots=dSe1GGDMdM&sig=Ei0uJbeOpcktt2o_7rJubU_I4Xc&hl=en

JMC
03-24-2008, 13:44
The second example. My understanding is the Flying Mare is like ippon seio nage. While the rolling hip lock is like O Goshi.

wildwills
03-24-2008, 13:49
The second example. My understanding is the Flying Mare is like ippon seio nage. While the rolling hip lock is like O Goshi.

Okay. The information I would suspect might be viable be be to search for some sort of Cornish Wrestling Assoc. I would suspect there my be Cornish Wrestling still over in the U.K. I was only able to find this to go from....

http://www.cornishwrestling.co.uk/index.html

It might be worthwhile to contact them and see if they have any affiliations here in U.S.

CEB
03-24-2008, 14:10
Snap Mare is a cool move.

My favorite variation is called the Snap Mare driver. It is like a combination of a Snap Mare and a DDT.

wildwills
03-24-2008, 14:23
Snap Mare is a cool move.

My favorite variation is called the Snap Mare driver. It is like a combination of a Snap Mare and a DDT.


Youch!....I stick to Judo for now....:laugh:

CEB
03-24-2008, 14:29
The last move on this clip is a snap mare driver. snap mare is another name for flying mare. Mare is any throw where the feet wind up higher than the head.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_tnv9ObeG8

JMC
03-25-2008, 18:22
Thanks to everyone for the quick responses. :wink2: