I seriously need help!!!!

[MATT_LIQUID]

I dont know if I should be posting my problems here. Web master you can delete thread if u think it is in the wrong place.

All this happened in college.

hmm where shall I start.

Here it goes from the start:


About a month or so my friend and I were walking around college. My friend bumped shoulders with this nut case (I refer him as nut case throughout thread). they exchanged words. Later that day they exchanged more words. up until yestuarday the tension was starting to die down nut case wouldnt let it go though (what a sado), he was threatening.

Yestuarday......

I was not with my friend at the time. nut case was with all his buddies. Nut case walks by the side of my friend and out of nowhere swings a punch. My friend saw it coming moved out of the way and gave nut.. a right hock followed by a left. nut was finished he was scared and had regret written all over his face.

Now it gets intresting.....

All nuts Friends jump my friend as soon as nut recieved the 2 punches. My friend managed to punch most of them but did get a kick in the face. It was then broken up..

But no......

After this u think nut would leave it go but no. 2 day i v had
people coming up to my friend and I saying that nut is realy mad.
I v got a fealing that there will be a repeat of the fight and my friend being ganed up on.

This is where I come into it.......

If I m there next time what should I do? (nut and his friends have no problem with me).
Cause I m a runner I have to pass them on a regular basis. Should I get involved?

I think I could take all 5 of them if I had to.

What sould my friend do.

I think some1 who has been in the same or simular situation would be able to help me big time.

Dam children.

Bit more info 2day they bloked the 1 and only college exit. Nut is taking no chances this time his crowd has increased from 5-20.
Some of these people I have known all my life. Its hard to stand there and watch my friend get battered.

I have a boxing background, Judo and basic grappling knowledge.

if I do get involved I m going to be in the same situation and make loads of enemies.

thank you

[Brett Dent]

I don't know why, but I just felt like replying. I'm not sure I have much to offer, but I'll try.

Let me ask you this? Is it likely that all 20 will jump your friend. I would think most would be spectators - at least until you finished off a couple of the originals. If it is likely, then you and your friend need more than advice...you need to call campus security or whatever you have there. 5 people is one thing, but 20 is life threatening. It works both ways. Here's the way I look at it...

After 10+ years in martial arts, I've learned one major rule about multiple attackers. You have to assume your life is in danger and fight as such. That means you have to make sure that who ever wants a piece of you, they aren't going to get up again. I don't know about you, but I would rather be labled sissy-boy and call the pros rather than risk seriously hurting someone or worse.

Also, would it hurt to talk to some of these extras you know individually to see what the deal is? Like I said, maybe they just want to see a fight. If they are on your side or you can get them on your side, then maybe you have a little protection. Talking usually doesn't hurt.

By the way...tell your friend to stay home today until you get some answers.

It's always better to walk away. I don't think anyone's honor is on the line here, is it? There's no honor in jumping someone with 5+ of your buddies. That's the coward's way. There's no shame in walking away from that! Us warriors don't play that game.

Good luck...I'll be praying for you guys.

Brett

[MATT_LIQUID]

It is impossible to walk away as they will kill us. Ther is no campus security. Most of his buddies are in his college class so there s no chance of any help of them.

Thanx 4 u r help

Matt


ps need more replies:(

[Jeff Burger]

I would get the police involved.

It may have been settled with a fair boxing match in a gym or just on agreement.

No one likes to loose.
And it appears the "nutter" will do what it takes to win regardless of any fair play or gentlemanly sportsmanship.
He lost his already unfair fight (sucker punch attempt) so beating him doesnt seem to be the answer.

Id hate to tell your friend to find him when he is alone or get a group of his own to keep it a fair fight.....so I wont.

What should you do...

QUOTE
"I think I could take all 5 of them if I had to."

Never count on that...besides as you have said the number now have increased to 20.

If you know its going to go down use your runing skill to get to a phone and call the police.
There is no dishonor in running from a 20 to 2 fight (not that honor should be your reason for running away from most any fight).

Nutter already appears to have personal problems. Now he has lsot a fight and is embarrassed seeking redemtion. I wouldnt be surprised that on top of the numbers he is now carrying a weapon, or has an attack plan in place.


Jeff

[Brett Dent]

Absolutely, Jeff. There is no reason to be involved in this on your own. We have crazy people in this world, and some of them won't think twice about shooting someone just because they got their feelings hurt.

Like I said earlier, your friend probably needs to stay home or out of the way (find a different route if possible) until this is resolved. It's just not worth having any contact with these people.

Also, you may be able to take on 5 people. However, I don't know how it is where you live, but over here you can't even hit someone in self defense without getting sued anymore!!! And God forbid you break one of their arms or worse. Your best protection, as Jeff said, is to get the police involved. I just don't see any other choice.

One other thing to agree with Jeff on...out of 20 people, there is no way someone is not carrying a weapon. This is how people get killed. Call the police.

Brett

[De_Franza]

Matt, I know it's been a few days since you last posted here, but I too encourage you to get the police involved. (and I hope nothing bad has happened in the mean-time). LIke Mr. Burger said, if it gets violent, you and your friend will need to END these attackers to discourage the rest from joining in, but this is really not an option.

Nutcase is clearly a good name for this fella, so the best course of action is to avoid him and get professional protection. A restraining order would not be unreasonable, but I don't know about how to get one.

definitely talk to the police and a lawyer (what an american thing to say!) but seriously, this could escalate and you don't want that.

The best of luck!

[MATT_LIQUID]

My friend was having loadsa threats. he went to the police they said there id nothing that they can do unless he is in hospital.

After this he spoke 2 a family member who told him that he has contacts of people who can be hired to, hmm how can i put it.... brake his bones.... last resort.

Anyways when the first assault happend there was some people there who didnt agree with what nut case did. they went up to nut case in a big gang and threatened him. in the mean time someone told nut case thats if he touches my friend that there will be someone will in a nut shell brake his bones.

1 more threat...... to make sure that he didnt do something stupid my friend reported nut case to the college board. he is know on his last warning he he:D :D :D

This friday my friend walked past nut case and his cronies and they did nuthing.

hopefuly this is the end but who knows?

Thanx for u r help

[De_Franza]

Glad to hear it. All the best!

[roninja]

the best way not to lose a fight is not to get into a fight. the police idea is probably the best one, but being aware of your surroundings is also good. I don't know if the apology thing has been tried yet either. or if they begin to circle up, run like hell. if anything happens, run like hell. this will also give him a mental victory where he will talk about how you just cowared up and ran away. all you have to practice is humility. but then again there's the good ol' american spirit way. where you go and get twenty friends too and have a battle royal. but that would most likely make matters worse. ooooor just prepare yourself to take a good ol' whoopin. there are stories of men who practiced the martial arts in japan after the war when amierca had occupied and due to the way things were run they couldn't fight back so they leanred how to get beat in the best preserving fashion. or something like that

[Cliff Hargrave]

Are you sure that's a college and not a junior high?

[johenora]

You do not seriously need help. That "college " you go to needs all the help it can get in all seriousness. The college has a Board of Trustees or is it run by gangsters. I thought Wales had gotten rid of most of the gangsters.Your police must be bidding their time drinking TEA. Do you not have a District Prosecutor or M.P.?
My Japanese friend would have hired some poor Yakuza and the problem would be solved in one evening of barbecue. The crazy clown would be roasted on his sleeping bed with petrol in the house of the realm. But you do not have Yakuza in Wales.This type of self help can backfire and you could be on the Yakuza payroll forever.
So the Yakuza suggestion of mine is out of order. Please, you should pursue lawful measures.Do not call out the old brigade or Marines though they'll face danger with a blinkin smile.
What you all need is a Solicitor/Barrister --what in the USA we call Lawyers not Attorneys who are not afraid to sue. Sue the school, the jerk and all the bad guys--you will see how they will no longer be friends and their parents need to be involved in you college of CHAOS.Hire the best LAWYER in town via a 'hoserace method". If you can not afford it,
take up a collection or sell candy --use you MIND and IMAGINATIONS to raise money to pay the Lawyer for his work---Do you have the Contingency system of hiring Lawyers in Wales?.

[Antares33]

Originally posted by Cliff Hargrave
Are you sure that's a college and not a junior high?

Pretty much what I was thinking.

PS, this thread is almost a year old... just thought I'd mention that.

[zenjitsu]

can he not press assault charges against him for that first time he hit your friend? the school school should have some sort of policy toward violence..
maybe he should buy him a beer. if he keeps it up,, talk to police some more, maybe get restaining order.. especially if he approches you,maybe you can have him arrested for approaching with intent to harm. and if you fight and win, always act like you lost when the police come up, they usually arrest the winner.
maybe things will be ok and work themselves out, it probably will.

[Andrew Green]

Watch the dates on things ;)

This thread is almost 2 years old and the person that posted it hasn't been on this site in over a year :D