Who are Obama's big supporters?

[Abbax8]

And will he be their puppet if elected?

I'm not a conspiracy buff but too many things in this election stink to not wonder. Is Obama being forced on us, so others behind him can manipulate things to their advantage?

Peace

Dennis

[Erik]

And will he be their puppet if elected?

I'm not a conspiracy buff but too many things in this election stink to not wonder. Is Obama being forced on us, so others behind him can manipulate things to their advantage?

No more than the Bush regime....

[Ramirez]

And will he be their puppet if elected?

I'm not a conspiracy buff but too many things in this election stink to not wonder. Is Obama being forced on us, so others behind him can manipulate things to their advantage?

Peace

Dennis

As opposed to any other politician in history? Being forced on you? If he wins , won't it be through a plebiscite?

I am not sure how the US political process works but I think I would join both parties and try to promote the candidate I like the best...I did it in Canada, I was simultaneously a member of both of the major parties.

[John Bennett]

Question? Who are Obama's big supporters?

Pretty much the same as McCain's; big corporations in the financial services industry like Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup, UBS AG, Morgan Stanley.

Also lots of giant military contractors like Microsoft.

These corporations aren't stupid. They know exactly what they are paying for and why.

See: http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00009638

[Cliff Hargrave]

See: http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00009638

Nice site, thanks for the link.

I didn't know Universities had PACs.

[John Bennett]

Universities are a total scam. My daughter is in her 2nd year at U.T. Austin. I'm seeing it up close and personal right now.

In what other business can you put a kid $100,000 in debt and know you are going to get paid?

But, my daughter wants to be a teacher. She has to punch her ticket if she wants to play.

The bachelor's degree has become nearly worthless. I have a job opening right now that requires a degree. You would be shocked to see the grammar in the applications I'm getting.

Used to be, if a person had a bachelor's degree from a State university, you knew they could at least write a coherent 1-page report and do some basic math. No more.

Again I hate to preach, but if government got out of the education business, bachelor degrees would cost $12,000 total and be gold-standard indicators of minimum abilities.

Those universities give McBama money so as to keep their sweet monopoly in place. How can a private universities be price competative when government schools get subsidized with so much gravy?

[Maro]

Are you saying that the ridiculous cost of University education in the US is down to Obama? :eek:

That's pretty thin.....

What is the cost factor? They brought in full fees etc when I went to Uni in London. The cost was around 12K Sterling for 4 years. That's a big difference.

[Jay Bell]

Down the road from me is ASU. Plugging the numbers of being an Arizona resident, living off-campus for the 08-09 schoolyear, for an undergraduate degree:

Total $17,901 $8,951/semester

X 4...unless the rates go up (which they do most years)..

$71,604.

Same...for a Graduate degree:

Total $25,791 $12,896/semester

and don't get me started on med-school...

[Ramirez]

Used to be, if a person had a bachelor's degree from a State university, you knew they could at least write a coherent 1-page report and do some basic math. No more.



I think that is more a failure of high school education, by the time a student gets to university they should be specializing in physics, chemistry etc., not learning basic grammar and math.

[David Anderson]

I think that is more a failure of high school education, by the time a student gets to university they should be specializing in physics, chemistry etc., not learning basic grammar and math.

You got that right...a dozen years of schooling should equip everybody with the ability to read intelligently, write coherently, use logic and math, and act responsibly in private and public life. The main purpose of schools nowadays seems to be babysitting, with a little education thrown in...


Whooooa...topic drift!!


Yeah, politics and government is like an iceberg...you only see the 10% that sticks out above the surface...there's a whole lot of far more dangerous stuff lurking down below the waterline. I'm far from an expert, but I've belonged to political parties, attended conventions, worked as an election volunteer and worked in a politician's office [briefly]...and I feel confident in saying that 99% of the population has no idea whatever of what the _business_ of politics is all about, and would be shocked and horrified if they did. One of the reasons I'm a radical advocate of small government is because I've had a glimpse of big government close up...

[Erik]

I think that is more a failure of high school education, by the time a student gets to university they should be specializing in physics, chemistry etc., not learning basic grammar and math.

I'd love to institute an Abitur/Matura/Baccalauriet (sheesh, I can't even spell that) system here in the US.