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In all due fairness to our Navy sisters, anybody want to talk about the great "Chesty" Puller?
Jeff Cook
Wabujitsu
dingodog1
12-13-2003, 02:54
What does Chesty have to do with the Navy?
The Marine Corp is part of the United States Navy. ;)
Jeff Cook
Wabujitsu
dingodog1
12-14-2003, 01:41
Oh yeah, that slips our minds some times. We are a department of the Navy. ....THE MEN'S DEPARTMENT! :D
That's a good one, dog-brother! I have to remember that one.
Jeff Cook
Wabujitsu
dingodog1
12-21-2003, 09:58
Originally posted by Jeff C.
That's a good one, dog-brother! I have to remember that one.
Jeff Cook
Wabujitsu I wish I could take credit for it. I got it off a bumper sticker I bought at the Army/Navy surplus store. It is prominently displayed on my car. It's the only one I've ever had where people honk at me, laughing and yelling "Semper Fi!"
...does anyone wish to tell us more about Chesty? I don't know a lot about him, but he really shaped the modern Marine Corp. (Men's Dept., USN, as it were).
I'd like to know more.
Webmaster
07-02-2004, 11:34
Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller was not really that influential as far as shaping the modern Marine Corps. Chesty Puller was really the "Marine's Marine", a Marine so legendary they said he didn't need a landing craft to come to shore - he'd just walk on the water. Chesty Puller got his nickname from his barrel chest. The myth was that the original had been shot away and the new one was a steel plate. In battles from Guadalcanal to the Chosen Reservoir, he lived up to his bullet-proof reputation, earning medals that required every inch of his uniform to display. By the time he retired from the Corps in 1951 he had earned more awards than any Marine in history: five Navy Crosses, the Distinguished Service Cross, the Silver Star, two Legions of Merit with "V" device, the Bronze Star with "V" device, the Bronze Star, the Air Medal and the Purple Heart.
He is famous for a few choice statements he made at the Chosin Reservoir during the Korean War. There is some misconceptions as to what he really said, and the below is taken from one of several sites about Chesty.
"The 1st Marine Division was surrounded at the Chosin Reservoir because the U. S. Army corps on its left flank collapsed and retreated. The 1st Marines, one the division's infantry regiments, was holding Koto Ri to keep the road open back to the coast, and was itself surrounded by several Chinese divisions. A reporter with the regiment posed a question to its commanding officer, then - Colonel Lewis B. Puller; "Colonel, you've got Chinese to your front, to your rear, to your left and to your right. What are you going to do now?" He reported that Puller's reply was; "The bastards aren't going to get away this time!"
In fact, that reply was made up by the reporter, a friend of Marines, to protect the colonel. The actual exchange was as follows:
Reporter; "Colonel, you've got Chinese to your front, to your rear, to your left and to your right. What are you going to do now?"
Col. Puller; "Damn sight better than the U. S. Army. At least I know they'll be there in the morning!" "
Some other memorable quotes from LtGen Puller include:
""Paper-work will ruin any military force"
"You don't hurt 'em if you don't hit 'em."
When an Army captain asked him for the direction of the line of retreat,
Col Puller called his Tank Commander, gave them the Army position, and ordered: "If they start to pull back from that line, even one foot, I want you to open fire on them." Turning to the captain, he replied "Does that answer your question? We're here to fight." At Koto-ri in Korea
"The mail service has been excellent out here, and in my opinion this is all that the Air Force has accomplished during the war." - Chesty Puller in a letter to his wife while in Korea
"Don't forget that you're First Marines! Not all the Communists in hell can overrun you!" - Chesty Puller motivating his men at Chosin Reservoir
"Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't
be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our
women and breed a hardier race!"
"Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". " Major General Chesty Puller, USMC - while on a Battalion inspection
Semper Fi!
He and I would have gotten along just fine!
Does anyone know of a good biography? I'd love to do some more reading.
ARMY, Ain't Ready for the Marines Yet. :D
"If you can't be the best, be all you can be." :D
muaythaifreak
07-03-2004, 12:05
Another good bumper sticker; Marine Sniper: Why run? You'll just die tired.
Don't be so hard on the Army, after all, if not for them the Marines would have to find someone elses *** to save. ;)
My apologies for getting off track. I couldn't resist. Chesty Puller IMO epitomizes what a marine should strive for. He was a great model for all of us. From the first day of training we learned who he was. I've also haved trained with some great marines who are also exceptional martials artists in their own right. They were carreer marines who have the same love and deidication for the Marine Corps as Chesty Puller. They never fail to talk about him as an inspiration also.
He and I would have gotten along just fine!
Does anyone know of a good biography? I'd love to do some more reading.
KING of the one liners.
A couple web pages...
http://www.gnt.net/~jrube/chestpul.htm
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/6350/chesty2.htm
Also check out :
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0553271822/qid=1094580289/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/002-7280305-9020017?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
Malificus
09-25-2004, 02:56
In all due fairness to our Navy sisters, anybody want to talk about the great "Chesty" Puller?
Jeff Cook
Wabujitsu
LoL, I was never in the service. I always thought myself as... MR. Josie :laugh: !
Malificus
09-25-2004, 04:54
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I was here!!! :)
Malificus
09-26-2004, 03:38
All honors to our troops.
But yeah, blame the kids. Discipline them. Spank them. Harm a hair on their head. I'm sorry, but I think there's a little too much saltpeter in the food you're eating. By the way, I talk to my mom everyday. Call me a little momma's boy.
Malificus
09-26-2004, 13:17
Paul
I take the statement about salt peter as a high compliment I dont know why your sorry.
Hahahahahahahahahaha :laugh:
Kids are people and they have rights too (OK, so they can't vote). I have no right to tell them that they must be solders. Just as I have no right to tell them whether or not they can cut their own hair and dye it a funky color. This wonderful country has PLENTY of brave men and women, whom serve the Stars & Stipes well... and we should remember them all. Not to mention our police, firefighters, and paramedics, nurses and doctors. Salute! :bow:
Chesty was a great man, who endured a lot. And for that I am very thankful for. :bow:
dingodog1
12-26-2004, 21:24
He and I would have gotten along just fine!
Does anyone know of a good biography? I'd love to do some more reading.
I've got two biographies on Chesty ... but as I look around neither is "within sight or hearing". LOL Any Jarheads reading this will note that quote.
I'll post the titles when I do find em, though I'm sure you've probably found plenty of sources talking about his life. Try googling "Marine Corps".
*I can't believe I can't see at least one of em, hmm ....*
Chesty was a stud, that's for sure. The #1 Marine.
(Of course, we had Patton, MacArthur, Bradley, Abrams, my dad, Pershing, Custer (good or bad thing?), Sgt. York, Washington, and a whole slew of them other heros....)
I love this rivalry - it keeps people motivated.
:D
yamatodamashii
12-27-2004, 03:49
As a former Marine currently serving in the Army--I really can't see how the Army in any way rivals the Marine Corps.
Speakin' of--I just sent a letter off to the Army Times regarding the Army's new markmanship training program. This isn't their semi-annual qualification; this is a new program being launched because the Army has finally realized that they need to be able to engage enemies with small arms fire at greater than the 300 yards that they've been using since World War II.
So, they are finally teaching soldiers--only a special cadre within the infantry, mind--to shoot the M-16A2 at the distances it was made to shoot at. Up to 500 yards. Of course, they're using *specially re-tooled* M-16's with scopes and match-grade ammunition.
Any Marines impressed?
David Craik
12-27-2004, 04:01
:laugh: :laugh:
Webmaster
12-27-2004, 08:52
So, they are finally teaching soldiers--only a special cadre within the infantry, mind--to shoot the M-16A2 at the distances it was made to shoot at. Up to 500 yards. Of course, they're using *specially re-tooled* M-16's with scopes and match-grade ammunition.
Any Marines impressed?
:laugh: I am reminded of a wise saying from my days on the range... "It is not the dope on the weapon, it is the dope behind the weapon that matters. Couldn't they just teach these guys some marksmanship fundamentals and save the taxpayers a whole lot of money? Better yet, maybe someone needs to point out to the folks who appropriate the money (Congress) that the Marines routinely teach their recruits to shoot from those distances and without special weapons or ammunition. :rolleyes:
Alright, here's some Army strangeness - I knew a guy who couldn't hit (for the life of him!) the 50 or 100 yard targets but never missed the 400, 450, and 500 yard targets.
Go figure.
dingodog1
12-27-2004, 12:10
Chesty was a stud, that's for sure. The #1 Marine.
(Of course, we had Patton, MacArthur, Bradley, Abrams, my dad, Pershing, Custer (good or bad thing?), Sgt. York, Washington, and a whole slew of them other heros....)
I love this rivalry - it keeps people motivated.
:D
Even Chesty couldn't hog all the glory the Corps has heaped upon it; Dan Daly(Come on you sons of bitches; do you want to live forever?), General Holland "Howling Mad" Smith, Gene Tunney(heavyweight champ of the world), "Manila", John Basilone, Evans Carlson(adopted the term Gung Ho from the Chinese for the Corps), Leland, Lou Diamond, Smedley Butler, Greg, "Pappy" Boyington(yes, he was real), Merritt "Red Mike" Edson, a shitload of actors, athletes, entertainers and more.
Might not be as familiar with em as some of the names you listed but google em. You'll find interesting reading and some new American heroes there.
dingodog1
12-27-2004, 12:15
*somebody slap me* Of course I'm getting senile; I forgot Carlos, "White Feather" Hathcock, the greatest sniper ever in the annals of sniping!
OK, the Army had some passable snipers too. But I'm a Leatherneck so ... I'm biased.
Now that we are in the subject of Marine snipers lets not forget Charles Mawhinney with 103 comfirmed kills in Vietnam. He was overshadowed by the accomplishments of Hathcock.
While Mawhinney had more kills, Hathcock had the longest shot.
"Although Hathcock, a career Marine with years of competive shooting experience, has received far more acclaim than Mawhinney, the latter, a three-year enlistment Marine, had the highest confirmed body count of any Marine Sniper in the Vietnam War."
from; Inside The Crosshairs, Snipers in Vietnam, by Maichael Lee Lanning, p.126
David Craik
12-27-2004, 15:24
As bad as it is to speak ill of the dead, I've met Hathcock and he was a singularly disagreeable person. His son would agree. Though, I suppose with what he had been through, he deserves a bit of latitude. Even in 1989, the poor man's face looked like a quilt. Also, if you ever have a chance to buy a lot of his 'White Feather' brand ammunition, pass. It's crap. There's no denying he was hell with a rifle, though.
I am absolutely shocked at the new rifle range protocol withing the USMC. They have, since the Iraq war began, apparently dropped the offhand position in favor of a position where you face the target squarely, like you're clearing a structure (with targets at 200 yds?), and presenting an optimal target for the enemy. I haven't seen it yet myself, as I have not been required to qualify with a rifle for quite a long time, but this is what my young guys tell me. Yet more impetus to look forward to retirement, I suppose.
David, there must be a reason for this. It cannot be as asinine as it appears at first, right? :confused:
David, there must be a reason for this. It cannot be as asinine as it appears at first, right? :confused:
That only thing I can think of is again applying CQB/CQC tactics, but at 200 yds? That would be impractical IMO.
Squared to the target is better when you are doing room clearings as it allows you quick target aquisition and mobility, but it does not provide you a good shooting platform for long distances.
I don't understand that change. I would hope that they (USMC) would maintain the off hand while implementing the squared stance for the reasons I stated. They are for two different reasons.
yamatodamashii
12-27-2004, 22:19
I bet they kept the seated position, though, didn't they? *sigh* Sorry for hijacking the thread before--I was on a rant. Hopefully the Army Times publishes the letter I wrote them...
"Chesty" Rules!
David Craik
12-28-2004, 09:37
David, there must be a reason for this. It cannot be as asinine as it appears at first, right? :confused:
That's what I was thinking. I've got to get down to the range and see what the heck they're doing. It's changed so many times since I last went.
Back on topic, yep, Chesty rules!
[QUOTE=Soulend]That's what I was thinking. I've got to get down to the range and see what the heck they're doing. It's changed so many times since I last went.
Please keep us updated.
Thank you.
David Craik
12-28-2004, 13:06
May be awhile...I'm on leave now. :)
As an ex swabbie and bubblehead (submariner for those who don't know). I'd have to say that as long as you leave the SEALS out of the equation, I agree with you.
My father-in-law was in the 2nd marine division when it landed on Guadalcanal. My great or great great uncle was at Bellau Wood.
I have one son in the Marines right now- Just deployed to Iraq last Monday. (Other 2 are in the Air Force).
My Sensei, Lee Gray, was a career Marine. Some of the stories his friends who served with him told me about his escapades in Vietnam still boggle my mind.
dingodog1
02-17-2005, 10:10
Hey Sdjw, now would be a good time for me to throw in that, though I good naturedly jab at the Navy I respect the hell out of you guys. Anyone who's spent any time at sea knows that you are some working mofos; it never stops while at sea and you guys make it happen. I'm one that relishes the Corps Naval tradition, it's part of our uniqueness, part sailor, part soldier and some of my fondest memories were spent aboard the Nassau and the Saipan, both LHA's. Most of the time I was thinking either, "What the Hell are they doing now or "Damn, I'm tired". I spent time doing combat cargo and mess duty(replenishment too!).
Hell, you got family in the Corps so you're family too!
I'll be prayin for your son; these are tough times to be a jarhead .... and while I'm at it I may as well mention you too!
Semper Fi, bro.
Good post Donald,
It's ironic really, I didn't make it as a marine, did 8 years Naval Reserves and I'm still biased towards the Marines. I give credit to the men and women of all branches of the military.
dingodog1
02-17-2005, 12:29
Good post Donald,
It's ironic really, I didn't make it as a marine, did 8 years Naval Reserves and I'm still biased towards the Marines. I give credit to the men and women of all branches of the military.
Thanks. I remember it was really my first big decision that was entirely mine and as I lay on the cot the next evening after a frightening early morning arrival and full day of indoctination and inoculation I remember thinking, "Well, I really f'ed up this time ..."
Pride wouldn't let me quit and I had juuuust enough guts to make it. I was far from a poster Marine but looking back I have never been so proud nor experienced anything as profound as those four years of my life.
I'm an Army brat, my pop was a Command Sgt Major at Bragg with Special Forces so I'm equally knowledgeable of the excellent warriors in all our branches(as well as the turds but we won't speak of them) but I guess what interested me in the Corps was thumbing thru the encyclopedia's we had; I'd come across the Marine Corps and it was just so ... different than anything around Bragg.
I never got it out of my head and though I was in college, Brig. Gen. Peterson spoke on founder's day and my mind was made up. At the time I'd completed two years of Air Force ROTC and advanced camp only requireing my graduation to be commissioned a brand new 2nd Lt.
I had to settle for Lance Corporal of the Marine Corps for most of my enlistment though I got Corporal a few months before my EAS. Picked up Sergeant in the reserves. Oh well, I fit in best as one of the guys anyway. It was still a great experience.
It was MY experience, the only one I've got. I'm expecting something exciting to occur any day now. There's always the lottery!
scruffysmileyface
03-23-2005, 22:49
This Marines / Army rivalry is a beautiful thing.
See, it's all about what's your point of pride? in the Navy, they have their ships (well, ships and tradition, the whole naval lineage thing). In the Air Force, it's that staggering technology that can pound the enemy from untold distances, you know - bombs that knock on the door and say "Pizza delivery" before detonating.
In the Marines, it's the Corps itself, yes? I was never a Marine so you guys correct me if I'm wrong. Tradition, history, combat effectiveness - the Corps itself.
In the Army, it's your unit. There are outstanding units, and then there are units. That's why you never hear people bragging about having been "in the Army," it's always, "I was in SF or Rangers" or whatever. There are truly outstanding Airborne Infantry formations in the Army, for example. You can tell what I did in the military, huh?
All that being said, I've been either in or around the military all my life, and have always been impressed with the field professionalism of the Marines.
As for Chesty, we studied him in brief at the Academy, and he was an outstanding role model for any man, not just for warriors. We need more stand-up men like that in the public eye for people to see and learn from.
~scruff
David Craik
04-01-2005, 21:08
[QUOTE=Soulend]That's what I was thinking. I've got to get down to the range and see what the heck they're doing. It's changed so many times since I last went.
Please keep us updated.
Thank you.
Hehe..forgot about this thread.. :o
At the 200 yard line they are being taught to face the target squarely (almost as if clearing a room) - a "more agressive stance". Absolute nonsense.
Hehe..forgot about this thread.. :o
So did I.
At the 200 yard line they are being taught to face the target squarely (almost as if clearing a room) - a "more agressive stance". Absolute nonsense.
Damm that sucks.
David Craik
04-02-2005, 00:06
Smart and sneaky guys still quickly assume the conventional stance and fire when possible, then return to the dorky one before the coaches and PMI's bawl them out though, causing me to smile.
Still haven't gotten a plausible answer why an "aggressive stance" is preferable to a "stable stance presenting as narrow a target as possible" to an enemy two hundred freakin yards away. What the hell though, I don't run the range, and very likely this way was devised by someone who is a better shot than I.
It seems a small thing, but I wonder sometimes if Marines will be killed because they have been taught to engage in this ridiculous fashion. I also wonder what effect these new-fangled stages, scoring systems, and firing techniques have on a branch so proud of it's heritage as a corps of riflemen. I sincerely hope that I am simply a curmudgeonly old relic who clings to the past, cannot see the advantage of the 'new and improved', and am unfounded in my worries.
It is not a small thing IMO.
Unfortunately that will get Marines killed.
You hit the nail right on, unstable stance and a bigger target to the enemy.
I can only speculate that some civilian contractor taught that to someone who makes the decisions.
Great that the Marines realize that the stance is ridiculous, but I'm really concerned if it's being taught to the recruits. They don't know any better.
dingodog1
04-02-2005, 11:07
It is not a small thing IMO.
Unfortunately that will get Marines killed.
You hit the nail right on, unstable stance and a bigger target to the enemy.
I can only speculate that some civilian contractor taught that to someone who makes the decisions.
Great that the Marines realize that the stance is ridiculous, but I'm really concerned if it's being taught to the recruits. They don't know any better.
*sigh* It's finally apparent why all those salty ole campaingners made the comments they did back when I was a new boot about "the good ole days" or "the Ole Corps". I remember feeling that I lost a little respect for them insisting everything was better or harder or all around superior to the standards and practices during my time.
Now, I understand. It's silly **** like modifying those training methods that inspire those comments. I want to go on record right now as ...
... Lodging my own, " The Mothers of America ... " thread.(Everyone's familiar with the ole' MOA being responsible for whatever's wrong with the Corps theme, right?)
They're fixing something that ain't broke by exposing the Marines to unnecessary risk by that silly *** adjustment. I wonder if they've noticed a drop in scores since they've begun that crap. Maybe their reasoning is, "this'll lure the enemy out take a shot at us AND THAT'S WHEN WE'LL MAKE OUR MOVE?"
Also, an apology to all those ole guys I silently dissed, and a request to join their disapproving ranks.
David Craik
04-02-2005, 13:48
"And there were also a number of diverse people who ran curiously to type, with drilled shoulders and a bone-deep sunburn, and a tolerant scorn of nearly everything on earth."
- Colonel John W. Thompson Jr.
in 'Fix Bayonets'
:D
twharton
04-25-2005, 15:39
Men's department my rear, without us Seabees around, you ladies would still be standin' in the rain reading your cartoon manuals trying to figure out why the sky is falling.
Sorry, but there doesn't seem to be any airdales around to poke fun at. :D
dingodog1
07-03-2005, 18:46
Men's department my rear, without us Seabees around, you ladies would still be standin' in the rain reading your cartoon manuals trying to figure out why the sky is falling.
Sorry, but there doesn't seem to be any airdales around to poke fun at. :D
I appreciate the whole Navy Establishment as well as the Army and everyone else. My Pop was SF and 82nd before that, my brothers were a medic, an artilleryman and a (what do you call the guy who assists dentists?), in the Air Force.
We're the modern day McMullens!
Webmaster
07-03-2005, 19:09
Sorry, but there doesn't seem to be any airdales around to poke fun at. :D
Sure we do! spdaddy (http://www.budoseek.net/vbulletin/member.php?find=lastposter&t=10459) was in the Air Farce and we can make fun of him! ;)
BTW, trying to convince my son to join the Navy and go SeeBee! Give me some good arguments in favor of this that I can use to convince him please.
Gene Williams
07-04-2005, 09:36
Smart and sneaky guys still quickly assume the conventional stance and fire when possible, then return to the dorky one before the coaches and PMI's bawl them out though, causing me to smile.
Still haven't gotten a plausible answer why an "aggressive stance" is preferable to a "stable stance presenting as narrow a target as possible" to an enemy two hundred freakin yards away. What the hell though, I don't run the range, and very likely this way was devised by someone who is a better shot than I.
It seems a small thing, but I wonder sometimes if Marines will be killed because they have been taught to engage in this ridiculous fashion. I also wonder what effect these new-fangled stages, scoring systems, and firing techniques have on a branch so proud of it's heritage as a corps of riflemen. I sincerely hope that I am simply a curmudgeonly old relic who clings to the past, cannot see the advantage of the 'new and improved', and am unfounded in my worries.
I don't give a damn if the enemy is 1000 yards away, if I can be prone and still have a target, I will be. :D
dingodog1
07-04-2005, 11:33
Sure we do! spdaddy (http://www.budoseek.net/vbulletin/member.php?find=lastposter&t=10459) was in the Air Farce and we can make fun of him! ;)
BTW, trying to convince my son to join the Navy and go SeeBee! Give me some good arguments in favor of this that I can use to convince him please.
Hmmm .... try this: "You'll have plenty of opportunities to meet lots of taciturn and generally disagreeable looking Marines up close and personal and you'll never be able to do your job good or fast enough for them".
That might do it. Don't forget to add that they will seem a bit insane to him as they do to most people who aren't Marines.
David Craik
07-04-2005, 12:09
On the contrary, the Seabees were absolutely incredible when I was in OIF I. Ten times more helpful and fast than our own guys. If you wanted something built, everybody knew to ask (and sometimes bribe) a Seabee...and voila!. It would get done. They would even let you help. Can't give them enough respect, the amount of quality work they did was incredible....they work like absolute demons and are skilled as all hell.
They were largely responsible for making a crappy situation liveable (everything had to be built from scratch when I got there). Put our Combat Engineers to shame. Every time I come across one (or some!), all the beers are on me.
dingodog1
07-04-2005, 12:15
I was trying to be funny. You know, now that I think of it I never met or encountered too many of those guys. I can recall meeting more FFL and SEALS than Seabees.
Perhaps the Seabees are the TRUE elitists!
dingodog1
07-04-2005, 12:20
Hey, Mr Carver(I can't see your post so I'm operating off memory), is your son into demolition or constuction already? Just curious why you'd select the Seabees for him to join.
Unless of course, his dad or someone else in your family is or served in the Seabees. Be nice to continue a legacy.
BTW, trying to convince my son to join the Navy and go SeeBee! Give me some good arguments in favor of this that I can use to convince him please.
Good luck! :laugh: Apart from nice bucks when deployed I can't think about much advantages. Travelling if you like...
But it'd be easier to make him join the Air Force: paid more for doing less :)
twharton
07-17-2005, 12:34
Every time I come across one (or some!), all the beers are on me.
So, where, exactly do you live? Tell a Seabee there's free beer involved and he'll move mountains to get to it. :D
BTW, trying to convince my son to join the Navy and go SeeBee! Give me some good arguments in favor of this that I can use to convince him please.
You actually get to be in the Navy and DON'T have to be haze grey and underway. I never set foot on a boat.
You get to see a lot more of the world than you can from a boat. Pretty much, any time the Marines are deployed these days, Seabees are attached, and apparently they have free beer.;)
Not only will you learn construction skills, but you will aquire excellent barter/trade/bribery/blackmail skills (If you want something built now, it comes with a price tag)
David Craik
07-18-2005, 04:41
But it'd be easier to make him join the Air Force: paid more for doing less :)
Dunno about the "paid more" part. They're paid the same as their equivalent rank in the other branches, and their promotion rate sucks. Many ancient E-5's running around.
Sorry David used to "here", France the greatest country for paying more who work less :laugh: . Here for exemple an NCO in the Air Force starts at about 1500€ per month (about 1800 USD) as an NCO in the Ground Army you start at about 1300-1400€ monthly (~1600USD). That is only about money, in the Air Force you got more "comfort" and less pressure.
About the Navy apart from thinking to join as fighter pilot I never really considered joining them but I do respect them, my grand father was in so I'm never gonna spit on them :rolleyes: .
dingodog1
08-14-2005, 05:45
So, where, exactly do you live? Tell a Seabee there's free beer involved and he'll move mountains to get to it. :D
You actually get to be in the Navy and DON'T have to be haze grey and underway. I never set foot on a boat.
You get to see a lot more of the world than you can from a boat. Pretty much, any time the Marines are deployed these days, Seabees are attached, and apparently they have free beer.;)
Not only will you learn construction skills, but you will aquire excellent barter/trade/bribery/blackmail skills (If you want something built now, it comes with a price tag)I have a buddy who was a Combat Engineer ... I know, I know ... not as good as a Seabee. I'll tell ya one thing though ... if Seabees are lights out better they ARE some darn studs!
My bud can fix or put together ANYTHING!
STORMCROW34
10-13-2005, 11:36
Sure we do! spdaddy (http://www.budoseek.net/vbulletin/member.php?find=lastposter&t=10459) was in the Air Farce and we can make fun of him! ;)
BTW, trying to convince my son to join the Navy and go SeeBee! Give me some good arguments in favor of this that I can use to convince him please.
Well for one, the Navy has the BEST food, great travel oppurtunities, a variety of projects to work on, and in the Seabees you actually get to take pride in your work because you ACTUALLY accomplish something and get to see a finished product. But most importantly in the Seabees you get top notch training that when coupled with the GI bill, will carry over into a high paying job when he gets the hell out.
Seabees... your boy will get to travel, build stuff, learn tons and tons about construction and civil engineering and teamwork, will have plenty of chances to learn about a variety of weapons (he might be imagining no guns if he's in the Navy building things - not true), time on land and at sea, which could be interesting, and he'll have excellent options to kick into college (GI bill) and an excellent career if he so desires.
Jeeze, makes me want to go be a Seabee.
John Lucas
10-22-2005, 13:19
I dont know if this joke has been posted or not yet and Im sure most of you have heard it before but I couldnt resist.
A Navy sailor walks into a public restroom and walks up to a urinal. As he starts his business, he sees that a Marine who was in the bathroom before him is about to leave without washing his hands. The Sailor sighs deeply and then says loudly, "Hey!, You know, in the Navy, the teach us to wash our hands after we pee." The Marine stops and turns to look at him for a second before he responds "In the Marines, they teach us not to piss on our hands."
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