In case anyone out there thinks I have been overstating the problem

[Rasputin]

http://www.fathead-movie.com/index.php/2010/07/11/lipitor-for-kids/


Pfizer gets EU approval for kids’ cholesterol drug

TRENTON, N.J. — The European Union has approved a new chewable form of cholesterol blockbuster Lipitor for children 10 and up with high levels of bad cholesterol and triglycerides, a type of blood fat, Pfizer said Tuesday.

This comes on the heels of the major review which showed zero benefit to taking statin drugs for ANY segment of the population.

http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/jln/19/1/65/_pdf

Referenced in my earlier post:

http://www.budoseek.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?27843-The-results-are-in-Statins-don-t-reduce-mortality-even-in-patients-w-heart-disease

OK, so to recap: there is only one segment of the population that statin drugs have been found to benefit: the medical/pharmaceutical community who manufactures and prescribes them. They have been found to cause cancer, mental decline, and otherwise raise overall mortality, but now we will allow our children to take them instead of using the proven method to lower blood lipids, lose bodyfat, and lower mortality: cutting out starch, sugar and vegetable oils & trans-fats.

What's next? Who wants to bet that the 2015 dietary guidelines will, for the first time, actually advocate a totally meat-free, vegan diet for all Americans?

Just goes to prove: sometimes the lie gets so big that it is easier to believe the lie than the truth.

[Rasputin]

What's next? Who wants to bet that the 2015 dietary guidelines will, for the first time, actually advocate a totally meat-free, vegan diet for all Americans?

Like these poor pseudo-intellectuals:

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=570105

I wonder how many of them would be going the meat-free route if they truly understood how good it is for you, and how much your body suffers without it. For the most part, they tend to be lowering their meat intake or sticking to fish and fowl to improve their health. The irony.

Gotta get the word out one person at a time, I guess.

[Bruno@BS]

Look, the argument is really, really simple: if God had wanted you to be a vegan, he wouldn't have made pigs and cows for bacon and beef. I mean look at a cow for example. The only point for it to exist is to be eaten. It's not like it's doing anything else but chew grass and grow beef.

[Rasputin]

There was a link I had seen elsewhere to a discussion board where the various vegans were discussing the problem of all the wild animals in Africa which were eating each other, and various ways that they could put an end to it.

The one brilliant idea that they came up with with the creation of two huge fenced-off areas. In one area would be kept all the predators, and in the other would be kept all the herbivores.

No-one on the board saw any flaws with this plan.

We're not talking a lot of deep thought being put into this.

The basic idea begins with a flawed premise: that we can meet all of our dietary nutritional needs through eating plants, supplemented with yeasts and other non-animal-sourced vitamins and minerals. This has never been proven to be true.

From that premise comes the conclusion that we as humans have a responsibility to try and live our lives without harming any animals, and that includes eating them.

This completely disregards the food web in which we sit comfortably somewhere near the top. But everything gets eaten. The Earth is at its healthiest when the food web is maintained naturally.

In addition to GCBC, another must-read is The Vegetarian Myth (http://www.amazon.com/Vegetarian-Myth-Food-Justice-Sustainability/dp/1604860804/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1279023941&sr=8-1). It's the story of an ex-vegan who ruined her health trying to save the world by eating plants, and the things she learned while trying to recover what health she could by becoming once more an omnivore.

[sean_stonehart]

I'm sorry... but my canines & thumbs (in my mind) make the uber omnivore. If it moves, it probably tastes good (save household pets) & I've probably sampled most of them.

My digestive tract has one stomach organ, not multiple to digest a fiber high, low protein diet. I don't have to swallow little pebbles/rocks/sand to store in a gizzard organ to help grind my food.

Veggies are a nice add-on to my main dish or sometimes done without if I'm eating lots of plant eating critters.

Going vegan is the best way for a human to become dinner for the worms or something bigger/badder.

Mind you... this is all my nutritionally deficient education on the topic ramblings. :eek: