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jjaje
02-13-2011, 10:45
As a new thread from Ramirez's thread about camping gear. Some thoughts on tents.

First is how many people to sleep, how much room do you want and how, how much weight are you willing to transport, what conditions will you be in and how much do you want to spend?

Most tents, if they say they sleep four, plan on three. Many tent companies are too optimistic about space. Except backpacking, you have to be close and tight, best way to save weight.

For me, I don't mind camping in hard rain, but I don't want a miserable night's sleep. I want to wake up dry, no matter how hard it rains outside. Plus, if kids are getting rained on in the middle of the night, they will be less enthused to go camping again later.

What I look for in a tent:

Full Rain Fly: Many tents have walls that are partially mesh and partially nylon or polyester. Many of them have rain fly's that only cover the mesh. I look for a tent with a rain fly that covers the whole tent. This is because many wall fabrics have a capillary action and when something leans against the wall (like a book or sleeping bag) that allows water to seep in.

Vestibules: One other benefit to a full rain fly they can create a vestibule. A portion of area outside the tent yet still protected by the rain fly. If large enough it's a great way to keep your pack dry, at a minimum you should use it to keep your boots dry (without having to actually put them in the tent)

Aluminum Poles: They cost more but aluminum poles are lighter, stronger in high winds and work better in very cold conditions than fiberglass.

Multiple doors: If a smallish tent, having a door on each side can keep someone from climbing over you for a midnight run to the outhouse.

Stable in Wind: Many of the rounded dome designs allow the wind to go around them, versus buffeting them.

Ventilation: Condensation can be a problem in a lot of tents. You need a good way of providing enough ventilation to minimize this.

Ground Sheet: Many people don't use a ground sheet, I always do, it is a small investment to protect the floor of our tent.

The REI Half Dome (http://www.rei.com/product/794294) and tents like it are very popular among backpackers. They have large vestibules, dual doors, and are rock solid performers in a storm.

the REI Base Camp (http://www.rei.com/product/777755) is one I have for car camping and the family. I might have gotten the Kingdom6 (http://www.rei.com/product/777768) tent if it were available at the time.

They are good 3 season tents, and can be used in winter, just not in the heaviest or worst of winter.

I use different stakes depending on the circumstances, usually never plastic ones. Sometimes pin types sometimes one with a "V" cross section.

Abbax8
02-13-2011, 13:36
I purchased a dome Tent that was rated for 10 people and had a connection where another tent could be attached via a zipper. Two of sons had that tent. We had lots of room. Cabin tents are only useful if you are car camping, they are too heavy to carry, but they do make for a comfy home away from home.

Jeff is 100% spot on, use a ground cloth and make sure the tent has a rain fly.

As far as cost, I'm fortunate that 5 minutes down the road there's an auction that sells tents at pennies on the dollar. I bought a $200.00 plus tent there for $40.00 years ago. The tent is now history but it lasted through about 10 years of camping and poor storage by me. Look around you might find a good bargain.

Ground cloths and rain fly's can be cheaply had by buy a large enough plastic tarp. Please practice your setup in your yard BEFORE you head out to the great outdoors. Also purchase some rope, about 1/4 ' to a 1/2" in diameter and take it with you. I suggest 100 foot. Also I prefer metal tent stakes over plastic ones and I prefer an axe to pound them in and take them out, hook the blade under the tent peg head and pull up.

One more thing, probably for another thread, be careful where you store your food. You DO NOT want your food in your tent, it will attract critters looking for a free lunch.

Dennis

jjaje
02-13-2011, 15:48
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As far as cost, I'm fortunate that 5 minutes down the road there's an auction that sells tents at pennies on the dollar. I bought a $200.00 plus tent there for $40.00 years ago....

That's great, and reminded me. If you have an REI nearby, most of them have regular garage sales. Items that are returned yet still usable, or fixable, will on for sale there. My current summer backpack tent is the REI quarter dome (http://www.rei.com/product/787396) (3 person) - retails over $300 and I got it for $39 at a garage sale. I had to fix one of the stakeout locations, but that was it, and well worth the investment. You can also find great deal on boots. Some people buy boots, use them on one trip and decide they don't like them. I got my son a $125 pair of hiking boots for $29, they were used in a photoshoot and couldn't be sold for new.

wildwills
02-14-2011, 07:05
Another good tent line, especially for backpacking at realtively low cost are of course REI, Kelty and ALPS Mountaineering (big with Scouting). Just remember this though, the lighter you go, the more expensive it generally is. I myself like the Nemo tents for their ingenuity and performance. Most people whether family/car camping or backpacking only need a 3 season tent. Unless you winter camp in heavy snow or alpine conditions, you really don;t need a 4 season or expedition type type.

I likewise prefer double-wall tents....it really combats condensation. And like was previously mentioned get a full rain fly and ground sheet. In a pinch Tyvex works great as a ground sheet.

wildwills
02-14-2011, 07:10
I've also gotten my best deals through Campsaver, CC Outdoors and Moosejaw...

http://www.moosejaw.com/moosejaw/shop/home___?s_id=0

http://www.campsaver.com/

http://www.ccoutdoorstore.com/index.html

jjaje
02-14-2011, 09:38
Another good tent line, especially for backpacking at realtively low cost are of course REI, Kelty and ALPS Mountaineering (big with Scouting).

ALPS Mountaineering actually has a Scouting discount. If you register your troop here (http://alpsmountaineering.com/tinc?key=fMP5s2XV&formname=ScoutRegistration) then the discount on tents is 40% I believe. The Taurus 4 man tents from Alps work great in our troop.

wildwills
02-15-2011, 06:58
ALPS Mountaineering actually has a Scouting discount. If you register your troop here (http://alpsmountaineering.com/tinc?key=fMP5s2XV&formname=ScoutRegistration) then the discount on tents is 40% I believe. The Taurus 4 man tents from Alps work great in our troop.

Yeah, ALPS Mounteering makes and sells good gear...especially for the casual hiker, backpacking hunter and Scouters.

I'm not an ultra-light guy by any means....I likes my comfort and my morning expresso by way of my Jetboil Flash and french press...lol:wink2: