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Abbax8
04-17-2004, 11:22
The idea occurred to me the other day that in judo there are some counters that are more elegant than others. Tsubame-Gaeshi and Uchimata-Sukashi are to prime examples. In both of these techniques, the direction of attack continues ukes original attack. This is in contrast to a Te-Guruma counter to a Koshi-Waza or a Tani-Otoshi counter. Another example that I would say is in the same vein as Tsubame-Gaeshi or Uchimata-Sukashi would be Yoko-Guruma to a Tai-Otoshi attack. Another possible example is a left sided O-Goshi counter to a right sided hip throw, tori steps around and throws. If anyone wishes to offer other examples, I would like to hear them. The basic requirement is for the counter to continue in the same direction, mimimal movement is required on toris part. Ukes impetus provides most of the kuzushi.

Peace
Dennis

starkjudo
04-19-2004, 09:06
Well, there's Tsubame Gaeshi, the footsweep counter for De Ashi Barai, and Kuchucki Taoishi (sp) the counter to Hiza guruma.

Rob Thornton

Abbax8
04-19-2004, 15:24
Tai-Otoshi as a counter to Uchi-Mata and Tawara-Gaeshi as a counter to Marote-Gari are two more.

Peace

Dennis

Jack Stay
07-21-2004, 14:01
The idea occurred to me the other day that in judo there are some counters that are more elegant than others. Tsubame-Gaeshi and Uchimata-Sukashi are to prime examples. In both of these techniques, the direction of attack continues ukes original attack. This is in contrast to a Te-Guruma counter to a Koshi-Waza or a Tani-Otoshi counter. Another example that I would say is in the same vein as Tsubame-Gaeshi or Uchimata-Sukashi would be Yoko-Guruma to a Tai-Otoshi attack. Another possible example is a left sided O-Goshi counter to a right sided hip throw, tori steps around and throws. If anyone wishes to offer other examples, I would like to hear them. The basic requirement is for the counter to continue in the same direction, mimimal movement is required on toris part. Ukes impetus provides most of the kuzushi.

Peace
Dennis

Learn and practice the 'Kaeshi No Kata' (form of counters). This Judo kata is filled with elegant counters.

The French practice the 'Kaeshi No Kata' extensively in their Judo training, and considering they have seven gold medals in Judo to America's none, they must know something we don't.


Also, I have used successfully tomoe-nage as a counter to Tai-otoshi.