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Today in class was a general day like any other...
Well, we have a Judoka in class... most of the time were busy telling him "relax, we dont do throws like that" or "the drill isnt about throwing today" or ... well... you get it.
Tonight, the last half of class WAS about Judo throws!
Now, in sambo we do alot of throws, but mostly our focus is on combat sambo, not sport sambo, so we try get the guy to the ground so we can put the hurt on him down there... so, our throws are simple, practical, and generally cater to the lowest common attacking demoninator.
Well, we let the resident Judoka have his fun and I got to be his Uke. OUCH! SWEET MOTHER OF GOD!
Theres a non-profit Judo school in the north metro area, I think Ill be dropping by
:laugh:
Did you take a couple of those "time to count on the way down" falls?
Or were they of the "quick and nasty" variety?
Either way, I feel for you day after tomorrow! :laugh:
I'm scheduled for my next flight on Sunday, so I can relate! :laugh:
Best Regards,
Paul Bladen
I've never experienced a judo throw, but I know the jujitsu one's are killer from personal experience. The #2 has a real mean throw and the # 4 can too. My instructor, sometimes, will go from 1 through 8 on me all one right after another, throwing me as well..it sucks.
Joe, I feel your pain. I really do. Just before Christmas I had an Eastern Block Country wrestler spend some time with us. Need I say more? ;)
Its was the fast "OH! so THATS what the ceiling would look like if there were stars inside" kind of throws...
John Bennett
07-15-2004, 05:46
"OH! so THATS what the ceiling would look like if there were stars inside"
LOL!
I know those stars! I've seen them when I tried to Box Boxers.
Cross-training is good!
:)
DragonMind
07-15-2004, 08:18
What's really humbling is when a 73 year-old man who weighs next to nothing does that to you...walked funny for the next week. :bow:
De_Franza
07-15-2004, 09:39
What's really humbling is when a 73 year-old man who weighs next to nothing does that to you...:bow:
Amen to that.
It's not Judo or grappling, but in my old karate school, there was a guy who started when he was 60 or 62. I met him as a 73 year old 1st kyu... sparring him was crazy, because he didn't seem to move, but you could never connect with him, even when totally not holding back, and suddenly, someone hits you like, 6 or 8 times in a second, and this old dude just stands there grinning at you, not even breaking a sweat. Quite frustrating... I have much to learn. :D
starkjudo
07-15-2004, 10:12
Bill, I can relate...I remember starting as a white belt in TKD, sparring another white belt who was about fifty....after I staggered off the deck, I found out later he was a former boxer.
Some stuff you need to know BEFORE sparring :)
Jack Stay
07-21-2004, 13:09
Joe, I feel your pain. I really do. Just before Christmas I had an Eastern Block Country wrestler spend some time with us. Need I say more? ;)
In 1976 and after eight years of continuous Judo I was a confident Ikkyu having just taken 1st place (176 lbs) at a local shiai. A Japanese Godan who was the captain of the Tokyo University Judo team and a law student at a local college here in Boston dropped by and asked if he could work out with us. This guy had the cauliflower ears, flat nose, and was extremely polite.
In less than 15 seconds of randori, I don't know what hit me and all I could remember was my feet whizzing through the air and the double bounce. He would do this several more times, at his choosing.
All this Japanese Godan used was Hane-goshi (springing hip throw), which he could throw you with at his beck-and-call! He would blast you through the air with that hane-goshi. He said he used to work out with Isano Okano, so I had the priviledge of working out with one of the elite Japanese judo players.
Kinda scary of what's out there.
The really fun ( or scary) ones are when you find yourself on the mat looking up and wondering how the heck did I get down here! You stagger off the mat and ask a friend, what did they throw me with. They usually say, it was (fill in the blank ), and it was BEAUTIFUL!!!
Peace
Dennis
I sent an email to the school up north... only $1.75 a class and on my "off days" for regular training, so we will see how it goes.
LOL. I remember the first times I was thrown; I thought I would die. These days, when I describe judo I often tell people that it's where I learn to hit them with the sidewalk. :t2:
Just remember guys. As judoka we are ONLY involved in a SPORT that has NO REAL SELF DEFENSE ASPECTS at all.
Peace
Dennis
Jack Stay
07-30-2004, 10:20
Just remember guys. As judoka we are ONLY involved in a SPORT that has NO REAL SELF DEFENSE ASPECTS at all.
Peace
Dennis
Hi Dennis,
I don't know how far along you are in your Judo career, but may I suggest you review all of Judo's katas?
Judo contains many self-defense techniques against the sword, knife, kicks & punches, and these effective self-defense methods can be found in Judo's Kime No Kata and Koshiki No Kata.
Judo will surprise you by being a well-rounded self-defense system.
For example, you are probably familiar with the Nage No Kata required for Shodan, and the Katame No Kata required for Nidan promotions. Yet the technique Ke Age (kick to lower abdomen) and Tsukkake (stomach punch) and Yoko Uchi (blow with fist to temple) are all part of Judo's Kimi No Kata.
Judo's Koshiki No Kata contains 21 ju-jitsu techniques.
Please visit: http://www.judoinfo.com/katamenu.htm
Also you might want to review the book: THE COMPLETE KANO JIU-JITSU (JUDO) (1906, 1961) by H. Irving Hancock and Katsukuma Higashi, found on amazon.com, to examine Judo's combat techniques.
As I've stated in the past, my experience in both Judo and Hakko-Ryu Jiu-Jitsu have satisfied all my self-defence requirements. It is understandable how one could spend their entire life immersed in Judo, it has so much to offer.
Let me know what you think about this information!
Thanks!
_________________________
John 'Jack' Stay
Boston, MA.
Nidan - Judo
Nidan - Hakko-Ryu Jiu-Jitsu :)
starkjudo
07-30-2004, 10:39
Seriousness, this is sarcasm. Nowthat you've been introduced, please go re-read Dennis' last post one more time!
Jack Stay
07-30-2004, 11:35
Seriousness, this is sarcasm. Nowthat you've been introduced, please go re-read Dennis' last post one more time!
I also have a real tough time expressing myself over this thing too. I've been misunderstood two or three times now.
Thanks!
_______________
John 'Jack' Stay
Mr. Stay. I was trying to be sarcastic. That is why certain words were capitalized. I was trying to point out how effective Judo is as a method of self defense. In fact that is how I teach it, or try to teach it, in the traditional sense. I teach for the person who wishes the exercise, I teach for the person who wants to learn Judo, I try to accomodate those who like to compete, and I show how a perfectly good contest throw, say O-Soto-Gari, is a killer throw on the street. I also teach Kata. I have been in judo since I was 12. I'm now almost 49. I still have much to learn. I apologize if I did not make myself clear.
Peace
Dennis
I personally thought it was hilarious! Too bad the majority of Judokas don't practice in this manner (at least around these parts). The fact of the matter is, a lot of Dojo's are just into trophy hunting and have little or no knowledge of kata or advanced knowledge of katame/osae komi waza.
I find it refreshing to see that there are other dedicated, "old school",if you will, practitioners out there that practice the Art the way it was intended.
Hat's off to all you guys!
Best Regards,
Paul Bladen
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