can't choose-judo or bjj

[curranni]

i am already a red belt in tae kwon do,and would like start either bjj or judo,but in my city they are both on on the same days and times.which shoul i pick.
or should i try both and make a choice or do both in the hope they will benefit each other.??

ps should a blue belt in Bjj be insructing bjj

[moogong]

i am already a red belt in tae kwon do,and would like start either bjj or judo,but in my city they are both on on the same days and times.which shoul i pick.
or should i try both and make a choice or do both in the hope they will benefit each other.??

ps should a blue belt in Bjj be insructing bjj


A blue belt in BJJ is qualified to teach the art. The BJJ belt system is different then that of most other arts. Because it takes so long to get a black belt in BJJ, a blue belt can teach the art.

As for which art, I would say try them out and see what you like best. Both arts work on similar principles and have similar techniques. Judo will teach you ground work but will focus mainly on throws. BJJ will teach throws but focus mainly on groundwork. The only thing that BJJ might have over the Judo is striking...I have found more BJJ schools teach better striking than Judo. From my exeperience, most Judo schools striking is almost non-exsistant. A good number of BJJ schools teach some kickboxing and boxing strikes...which is a very good thing.

[Alice Knowles]

A blue belt in BJJ is qualified to teach the art. The BJJ belt system is different then that of most other arts. Because it takes so long to get a black belt in BJJ, a blue belt can teach the art.

As for which art, I would say try them out and see what you like best. Both arts work on similar principles and have similar techniques. Judo will teach you ground work but will focus mainly on throws. BJJ will teach throws but focus mainly on groundwork. The only thing that BJJ might have over the Judo is striking...I have found more BJJ schools teach better striking than Judo. From my exeperience, most Judo schools striking is almost non-exsistant. A good number of BJJ schools teach some kickboxing and boxing strikes...which is a very good thing.

Just out of curiosity, it take approximately 10 years to earn your black belt in judo, how long does it take in Brazilian Ju Jitsu?

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Alice Knowles

[Cliff Hargrave]

curranni,

Please sign all your posts with your real full name as required by BudoSeek Rules. Thanks.

Try each class and see which one you like. If you can sign up with out contractual committments then try at least a month of each and then choose.

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Just out of curiosity, it take approximately 10 years to earn your black belt in judo, how long does it take in Brazilian Ju Jitsu?

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Alice Knowles

I don't where you are from, but the standard is about two years for black belt in judo. I know some that got theirs in a year and a half.

Ten years for BJJ is about the norm. Six if you are really good and train almost every day, and four if you are a phenom.

[moogong]

Just out of curiosity, it take approximately 10 years to earn your black belt in judo, how long does it take in Brazilian Ju Jitsu?

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Alice Knowles


I have never been to a judo school that required 10 years for black belt. I am not saying those do not exsist, but in my experience, 3 to 4 years was the usual time frame. Typically, BJJ takes 8 to 10 years. For that reason, there is not a large number or BJJ black belts instructors teaching the art.

[Webmaster]

Just out of curiosity, it take approximately 10 years to earn your black belt in judo, how long does it take in Brazilian Ju Jitsu?

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Alice Knowles
Alice:

Why even bother with BJJ, just stay with Judo. Hey, in Judo, you get to wear a BLUE JUDOGI. ;)

[Alice Knowles]

I have never been to a judo school that required 10 years for black belt. I am not saying those do not exsist, but in my experience, 3 to 4 years was the usual time frame. Typically, BJJ takes 8 to 10 years. For that reason, there is not a large number or BJJ black belts instructors teaching the art.

The time in grade requirements for both the USJA and the USJF are similar for the senior kyu ranks, but slightly different for the junior grades. Both organizations will quickly promote an outstanding competitor.

General overview for senior time in grade requirement to shodan (blackbelt) in judo:

If you begin Judo at over 16 years of age:
6th kyu 3-4 months
5th kyu 4-5 months
4th kyu 5-7 months
3rd kyu 6-9 months
2nd kyu 8-12 months
1st kyu 8-12 months
Total: ~4 years to Shodan

But if you start Judo at 6 - 8 years old, you won't see Shodan (black belt) until minimum 16 years of age, so figure 8-10 years to a black belt in Judo if you start as a child. Adults have a higher learning curve.

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Alice

[Alice Knowles]

Alice:

Why even bother with BJJ, just stay with Judo. Hey, in Judo, you get to wear a BLUE JUDOGI. ;)

I own a Kwon blue gi.

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Alice

[Webmaster]

I own a Kwon blue gi.

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Alice
You mean you own a blue judogi. Gi is not a real word in Japanese. Correctly used, it would be judogi, karategi, keikogi, dogi, etc.

BTW, tell Jack, Patrick and Keelhualhim hello on you way to BudoSeek! Oblivion.

[Cliff Hargrave]

Alice:

Why even bother with BJJ, just stay with Judo. Hey, in Judo, you get to wear a BLUE JUDOGI. ;)

We stole that too :)




http://www.atamakimonos.com/images/products/kimonos/single/blue/front_200-385.gif

[JujitsuFreak]

BTW, tell Jack, Patrick and Keelhualhim hello on you way to BudoSeek! Oblivion.

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I don't where you are from, but the standard is about two years for black belt in judo. I know some that got theirs in a year and a half.


Cliff, I dont know much about Judo except that it has a bunch of throws :laugh: Are you serious with that 2 year statement? Seems awfully short, why so quick?

:bow:

[Webmaster]

We stole that too :)

Are you sure its a BJJ dogi? It doesn't have any patches on it! :rolleyes:

[Cliff Hargrave]

Are you sure its a BJJ dogi? It doesn't have any patches on it! :rolleyes:

That is an Atama, patches are extra $$$ :)

[starkjudo]

You mean you own a blue judogi. Gi is not a real word in Japanese. Correctly used, it would be judogi, karategi, keikogi, dogi, etc.

Boss, you're not turning into Kehoe, are you?

[Webmaster]

Boss, you're not turning into Kehoe, are you?
God Forbid! :eek:

Actually, I have always been pretty particular about using the correct word and not just "gi", but I usually let folks slide unless they tick me off by impersonating someone they are not, or otherwise breaking the rules.

[Erik]

BJJ guys are pretty tight with quality control. A blue belt is qualified to teach classes. Think of this like having a wrestler with, say, 3-5 years of experience running workouts. That's just fine for teaching less experienced people and for running practices with guys who are better, even, as BJJ practices are more like sports workouts than academic or yoga classes. It's ALL sparring & drilling - no fighting air, no artistic nonsense, etc.

We wear blue gis (kimonos, according to some - go figure), and you can see tan (unbleached), red, black, and I'm sure there's a yellow one on the way like with the German judo gis.

As for what you'd like to take, find a club you like. Both are interesting. Judo throws are pretty cool, I must say, though I find the groundfighting more fun. If you find a judo club that does a lot of groundwork, you may find that you have the best of both worlds. Also, judo is more popular (being about 130 years old and being an Olympic event) so if you travel you will be more likely to find a place to workout. That's fun.

Judo has more of that bowing and scraping nonsense and you'll have to learn some Japanese. This annoys the living daylights out of me so I switched to BJJ (largely for that reason).

You'll get your belts faster in judo (I got my green in 1+ year, been doing BJJ for two and I'm still white - we have blue belts who have been in for six or seven years) but that's just cosmetic. I think that a dan ranking (black belt) in judo means you're at a stage where you know the sport and can now start doing it for real. The same is true of a blue belt in BJJ. You're not an expert - you're just finally a varsity player.

[Cliff Hargrave]

Jack became Alice.........Maybe he has some gender issues.