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at first i have to say that my english is not so good ..so don't judge me if i do something wrong :D
I want wo ask if somebody knows how to train his reaction at home ...
at traning you train it when you do boxin or something like that ..
but we do this not so often and i want to train it at home ..
but i don't know how to do it ..
so i would be very happy if sombody tell me a methode to train my reaction
thx
this probably wont be much help but i heard that bruce lee used to punch bare electrical wires... this would shock his hand and make him pull back... he did this for long periods of time, and his reactions became a lot faster....
from this it would suggest that subjecting yourself to small amounts of pain would be a good way to make ur reaction speed faster (soem of the more experienced people here will probably tell me that i am wrong but i am only tryin to help)
Sooo.... that's how Bruce Lee died!! :D Buzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!! :eek: :laugh:
To train for response:
Turn on MTV. Turn off the sound. Assume position or no position. Whenever the scene changes, throw a punch or a kick or whatever. Your responses (visual cue) will improve quickly .
i knew i'd be wrong :(
i might try out what you said spartan... how long should each session be and how often???
Mandeigh Wells
10-29-2004, 14:59
I throw things at my students...that sharpens them up a bit, especially when there is a penalty for getting hit..... ;)
i might try out what you said spartan... how long should each session be and how often???
You are training your nervous system here. So it is best to do it as often as possible, everyday. But do not tire yourself everytime. You want to remain as fresh as possible. Just take your time with training. You can't hurry love and you can't hurry training neither. lol
It is important that you do not tired yourself out. Then you can keep honing your nervous system all day. Your response will improve greatly in time.
punching live wires?! that's a bit extreme, ain't it?!
voltage was only about 30v back then... not enough to fry you but enough for a shock... anyway, i wasnt suggesting that just saying i heard that bruce lee did it ...
i know, i know, i'm just wondering what on earth was going through his mind when he decided to fight that particular exercise in his training regime!
i know, i know, i'm just wondering what on earth was going through his mind when he decided to fit that particular exercise in his training regime!
agh sorry! didn't mean to post it twice
CosimoTe
10-29-2004, 21:14
voltage was only about 30v back then... not enough to fry you but enough for a shock... anyway, i wasnt suggesting that just saying i heard that bruce lee did it ...
You're not so far off the point as it may seem. The electrical stimulation you're refering to would cause contraction of the muscle group upon which it is placed. It is very low amplitude and low voltage. It would be a low grade work out without working out. Ineffective for the most part, and no it wouldnt cook him like a hot dog in one of those early eighties hot dog cookers. ( anyone remember those?)
Anyway, reaction time and quickness are best trained through repetition.
practice your form and your speed and throwthem as quickly as your form will allow until exhaustion- get a sip and do it again.
Also Ive found that a speed bag, what boxers use, is an excellent device.
Ous
...practice your form and your speed and throwthem as quickly as your form will allow until exhaustion- get a sip and do it again.
It is not advisable to go to exhaustion as that will induce CNS burnout.
thank you i will try it with watchin' tv ..
but can u hear music when u do it ?
i think it is no problem when u do it but perhaps itz not so good ..
who knows?... :o
i think your body is less aware when the music is playing... that is why he says to turn it off ( i think....) so i'd just have it off
redqueen290
10-30-2004, 16:11
I alwayse listen to music when I train, yes it makes me less aware, and thats the point, I dont realize how much whatever I'm doing hurts that way!, A good way to ignore pain.
i agree, but is this a good thing when you are training your reaction speed!?
i myself listen to music whilst training (mainly techno... and some other stuff like ninja rap lol)
but i would say that whilst training reaction speed's you should use your full concentration...
Of course you can train with the music on. In fact I have seen some training of the States Department Security operators conducted with the full blast of loud music as an added source of distraction.
It is better to train one step at a time. You want to train your reaction speed to visual cue without the sound first. When you are proficient at it, then you add a new source of distraction : NOICE. You know, the stuff that you people call music. :D lol
You should train like you fight. Therefore, you should accustom yourself to different kind of distraction, ie with and without loud music.
Vehemence
10-31-2004, 01:47
i think your body is less aware when the music is playing... that is why he says to turn it off ( i think....) so i'd just have it off
maybe he just ment that MTV sucks :D
it's all good to throw punches at nelly, but just put good music on on ya stereo.
heh, personally i'd say do whatever helps you focus, or whatever is more of a real world condition for you to train in. loud club/party, being used to silence might make you less prepared. *shrug* I'm sure it's a minor detail
-Tyler Davis
TheLucksta
11-01-2004, 03:56
I throw things at my students...that sharpens them up a bit, especially when there is a penalty for getting hit..... ;)
Like... large bricks??? :D
DanielSR
11-01-2004, 08:13
If you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball.
redqueen290
11-01-2004, 15:21
hahahahaha, thats great. I'll make sure NOT to tell my sensei that one, (the man is a little insane) he just might try it.
Get dressed up in black.
Go to a dark road with no street lights.
Dodge the cars in the middle of the night.
:alien: :splat:
DragonMind
11-02-2004, 08:50
at first i have to say that my english is not so good ..so don't judge me if i do something wrong :D
I want wo ask if somebody knows how to train his reaction at home ...
at traning you train it when you do boxin or something like that ..
but we do this not so often and i want to train it at home ..
but i don't know how to do it ..
so i would be very happy if sombody tell me a methode to train my reaction
thx
You might try some of the experts in the field of sports training...www.stadion.com
Get dressed up in black.
Go to a dark road with no street lights.
Dodge the cars in the middle of the night.
:alien: :splat:
By chance, your family runs a casket factory? :D
Ok, for the sake of arguement I want to suggest that there is very little you can do to decrease your innate reaction time.
This time is the "see the light, push the button with your finger" time.
What happens during training is two fold: 1. you get used to the script and relax. This does not actually increase your speed of the start time (see the light) but greatly decreases the time it takes to do the move from start to finish, which looks like a faster reaction. And 2. in a human dynamic situation like a sport engagemet, you get used to seeing the tells and telegraphing of your opponent which allows you to move to counter what isn't there yet, again giving the appearance of being "faster". Someone good at this skill can beat someone much faster by actually being slower but firster...:)
I have fast hands but average reaction time. If I choose to move my hands, I can move them like a snake striking. But I can't stop someone slapping my face if they can move fast too, you see?
So, to defeat the faster action that puts me behind the reaction curve, I have a couple of tricks. I use distance to increase the time it takes for his slap to get me so my reaction time can deal with it or I establish a tactile awareness of his hands (the essence of tai chi) which stops the thinking part of my reaction time and he is easily stopped.
In other words, you're propbably already fast enough, there are no short cuts to success, just practice of the basics.
You said it in a rather clumsy way, :D and without citing any scientific proof to back you up. But you are correct though.
Whether you are aware of it or not, there is at least one research confirming what you stated. The reaction time "from seeing the green light and reacting" is about 0.25 second. What you can improve is your ability to perceive cue of a pending strike (note: it is the cue, not the actual initiation of a strike) and the speed of your counter. The actual perception/reaction time is 0.25 second.
DragonMind
11-05-2004, 08:11
You said it in a rather clumsy way, :D and without citing any scientific proof to back you up. But you are correct though.
Whether you are aware of it or not, there is at least one research confirming what you stated. The reaction time "from seeing the green light and reacting" is about 0.25 second. What you can improve is your ability to perceive cue of a pending strike (note: it is the cue, not the actual initiation of a strike) and the speed of your counter. The actual perception/reaction time is 0.25 second.
Your first comment was unnecessary. In the guise of agreeing, all you've really done is insult him. The written medium requires more care in choosing your words.
There are tons of research studies looking at human reaction times. In fact, it is such a common topic in the field of psychology that it is usually run as a lab exercise for new psychology students learning to conduct experiments. Your example is incomplete. Reaction time varies depending on the complexity of the stimulus. A sinple light on/off stimulus generally results in a reaction time of a quarter of a second. A more complex stimulus (go on green but not red), slows reaction time to a third of a second or slower. Therefore, your goal in improving reaction time is to train to recognize simple stimuli rather than complex ones, i.e. look for the simple telegraphing signals instead of analyzing body movement. That is the reason behind many instructor's admonitions to eliminate thinking from your technique.
LOL...first of all, I'm still laughing at the comment about punching live electrical wires...ok, don't do that...seriously. I'm sure bruce never did. I am in agreement that reaction time is something that is pretty "hardwired" into your nervous system...not alot you can do to change that. What you can work on is your muscular reaction to your own nervous system. Check out the "overspeed" training concept for more information on this: http://www.overspeedtraining.com/
peace
What!?
You didn't like my "slower but firster" idiom??
What's wrong with "slower but firster"!!!
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Your first comment was unnecessary. In the guise of agreeing, all you've really done is insult him. The written medium requires more care in choosing your words.
You are over-sensitive of feeling getting insulted. Lighten up. As it is, the martial art world is too full of people too strung up over protocol and hierarchy already.
There are tons of research studies looking at human reaction times. In fact, it is such a common topic in the field of psychology that it is usually run as a lab exercise for new psychology students learning to conduct experiments. Your example is incomplete. Reaction time varies depending on the complexity of the stimulus. A sinple light on/off stimulus generally results in a reaction time of a quarter of a second. A more complex stimulus (go on green but not red), slows reaction time to a third of a second or slower. Therefore, your goal in improving reaction time is to train to recognize simple stimuli rather than complex ones, i.e. look for the simple telegraphing signals instead of analyzing body movement. That is the reason behind many instructor's admonitions to eliminate thinking from your technique.
That is because complex stimuli involve another speed, ie decision speed.(hence slower). Simple stimuli involve only perception speed.
What!?
You didn't like my "slower but firster" idiom??
What's wrong with "slower but firster"!!!
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Hey, bad inglish is MINE excuse. Not your guys'. :D
Seriously, Why voluntary gives up competitive advantage? There are ways to speed up your muscle contraction. Of course you would want to be the "firster" but you should also be the "faster" ;) lol
DragonMind
11-05-2004, 13:39
You are over-sensitive of feeling getting insulted. Lighten up. As it is, the martial art world is too full of people too strung up over protocol and hierarchy already.
It has nothing to do with hypersensitivity, protocol or hierarchy; it has to do with simple courtesy. The world is already too short on people who think before they speak; who treat others with compassion and caring; and who practice manners and etiquette. There was no more need to call Ted's answer clumsy than there would be to point out someone's grammatical or spelling errors. The conversation here is casual and the point was understood. Your comment was just rude.
That is because complex stimuli involve another speed, ie decision speed.(hence slower). Simple stimuli involve only perception speed.
All stimuli involve perception and decision speed (e.g. should I move or not), it is that the more complex the decision, the longer it takes. That's one of the several advantages of a good feint, it helps make the decision more complex for the opponent and thus slows their reaction time.
For god sake, Barry! How could you not know I was joking when I said his writing was clumsy? What the heck did you think I put the smiley " :D " there for? What the heck do you think "smileys" are for?
As you said so yourself ,"the conversation here is casual".
All stimuli involve perception and decision speed (e.g. should I move or not), it is that the more complex the decision, the longer it takes. That's one of the several advantages of a good feint, it helps make the decision more complex for the opponent and thus slows their reaction time.
If you have to make decision, "should I move or not", your goose is cooked. You said so yourself. "That is the reason behind many instructor's admonitions to eliminate thinking from your technique."
A good feint is to set them up to react/respond/counter in the WRONG way, not to slow them down.
DragonMind
11-08-2004, 15:52
A good feint is to set them up to react/respond/counter in the WRONG way, not to slow them down.
If you think all feints are for is misdirection, please read some of Joe Lewis' writings on hitting on the half beat. A feint can also be used to disrupt your opponent's timing.
DanielSR
11-08-2004, 16:53
Truscott is that a picture of you? Also I figure that most of the times you really don't need fast reflexes, you just need to be aware. At least for me thats the case.
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