I would like to know about Jodo.
thankyou
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I would like to know about Jodo.
thankyou
Could you be a bit more specific?
Whats the training like?Are there other weapons used in jodo?which ones and in what way? Whats the purpose of Jodo training? Does it complement katana training in any way? Whats the difference between a bo and a jo besides length ? thats about all for now..
Hi! Jay
Are all of your questions answered? I can tell you a little more about it, if the link didn't satisfy. I've studied Shinto Muso Ryu jo for the past 5 years or so, I am still studying regularly here in Nagoya.
For the record:
Training is a lot of fun! I always have a good time.
As for the purpose of Jodo training, there is a quote that goes: "No hurting but teaching and the lesson is not the jo".
Shinto Muso Ryu has the jo (of course), Shinto Ryu Kenjutsu, Uchida Ryu Tanjo, Isshin Ryu Kusarigama and Ikkaku Ryu Jutte in it's syllabus. Used against an opponent in "paired kata". Good stuff.
The difference is in the way you use it, for the most part. Length has a great deal to do with that. The Skoss' have put a really good description on their website describing the way it acts.
Always,
-Russ
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Thankyou Russ, Is the Shinto Ryu Kenjutsu a complete Kenjutsu system?
or just bits and pieces to complete the Jo training? or something else?
You betcha!
The kenjutsu is complete, with it's own kata; using both short and long sword. Very sweet. There is no "iai" or "batto" per say in the kenjutsu kata, but there are instances of drawing the sword within the kata of the other weapons (if that makes sense). While I am at it, there are hints of taijutsu within those kata as well.
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Sounds to me like an excellent school of Budo -
What arts do u currently study Russ ?
... Also what exactly is that avatar a picture of ?
It is pretty cool! I like SMR. There are a lot of people to study and learn from as well.
Myself?
The big four:
Sosuishitsuryu, Shinto Muso Ryu, Owari Tenshin Koryu Kempo and Kukishinden Tenshin Hyoho.
I am really busy.
The Avatar is a little-ogre/demon guy shooting an arrow. Done by one of my favorite modern Ukiyoe (Sosaku Hanga) artists, Mori Yoshitoshi..
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Ugly little thing... :t2:
so why do u do jujutsu and kempo ?
The best answer: Me likey! The kempo is not what what one is led to think it is....
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Originally Posted by gr455h0pp3r
If it is of any help I have posted many video clips as well as one of Mifune demonstrating many judo techniques and showing both dojo work and compitition.
http://www.vsocial.com/video/?l=428
HI!
this thread is about jo-do, not Judo! :D
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Sorry my mistake
Id like to learn the Jo. Its a weapon that I have always liked ...just never had a teacher.
Jeff
Yet another link: http://www.jikishin-kai.com/jodo.htm
Well, you can always self teach yourself. :rolleyes:Quote:
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I started learning it about 11 years ago, I already knew how to use a Bo, so learning the 'Jo' was'nt very difficult its a very simple and effective weapon to learn.
Hey, I was wondering if anybody knew of any sites out there that have jo katas. We do a little bit of jodo at my dojo, but very rarely, and i have quite an interest in it. So if anybody knows of any i would be very grateful.
Russ:
I posted a question about the difference between Jodo and SMR. I came back here thinking the questions were answered.
I was just reading up on all the information you have posted and it made me wonder. I was asking about Jodo the budo (not SMR). Like all Jodo sites you have given me information on Shinto Muso Ryu while I am seeking information on Jodo (as in Jodo, Kendo, Iaido, Naginata). Thankyou.
P.s I apolagise if this message sounds angry or something, I dont intend it to come accross as such. I am greatful for your input and I am a little confused.
I think there might be a misconception here - "Jodo the budo" doesn't mean very much. Training in the japanese staff is available in very few curriculum. It is the main portion of of Shindo Muso-ryu; a limited version of SMR style-based jodo is taught under the purview of All Japan Kendo Federation and its affliate national programs ("Seitei Jo"); perhaps two or three other koryu schools have at least a little jo in their teaching, and that's it. Aikido styles sometimes teach jo techniques as well, though I'm not sure I'd call that "jodo" per se.Quote:
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When you say "as in jodo ... iaido" - remember that there is no monolithic iai, either - there's a bunch of koryu schools, some modern remakes of same, and the ZNKR seitei iai. Again, that's it. Likewise, there's no monolithic naginata - or kendo for that matter if you include koryu sword styles.
Are you looking to find jodo instruction?
So whenever a Kendo dojo says they also have Iaido, Naginata and Jodo what does that mean ? There are many dojos around Australia that teach all 4 (if not 1 or 2 of the 4) I understand the curriculum of Kendo Iaido and Naginata but not Jodo. So your saying this "Zen Nihon Kendo Renmei Jodo" taught at many Kendo schools around Australia is a limited version of SMR ? How limited?
Well, I would believe that in this case, the primimary item being taught in Kendo would in fact be, well, kendo. That sounds silly, so let me try to put this another way. Shinto [Shinto] Muso Ryu Jo has kenjutsu, juttejutsu, kusarigama, etc, The primary weapon in this case, the one that they put the most focus on, is Jo. So they teach other things with focus on the jo. Even though I don't practice Kendo, I can see where they are coming from. Incidentally, the seitei jo of Kendo is in fact based on Shinto Muso Ryu kata.
Australia has a very good Shinto Muso Ryu group and if you are interested, check them out. I have had the pleasure of meeting several of them in Tokyo last year and they are truly a very good group of people.
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It probably means that they teach the seitei version of iai and/or jo as included in the All Japan Kendo Federation. Seitei iai is twelve kata, selected from a number of koryu iai traditions, and instructed as an <adjunct> to kendo training. They serve a role similar that of the kendo no kata, ten partnered sword kata similarly selected from several koryu sword traditionsm, and instructed as an <adjunct> to kendo training. Seitei jo is twelve kihon (basic striking methods) and twelve kata selected from one koryu tradition, Shindo Muso-ryu. The seitei are primarily taught as a component of kendo, though not all schools and instructors will teach kendo no kata, iai , and jo (most are limited to the kendo no kata). The seitei also serve a role in providing a 'sampler set' to those not exposed to koryu traditions, as well as a 'lowest common denominator' for folks who train in different koryu traditions (ymmv). It is probably worth mentioning that the seitei kata, in all three categories, are not exactly like their antecendent koryu kata.Quote:
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It may mean they also teach a koryu tradition of iai or jo as well. You'll have to ask.
Naginata has a more modern version, much like kendo - with the armor and bamboo weapon, as well as koryu traditions. This isn't seitei, it is a separate study but related to kendo. Lots of fun, actually.
Yes, as described above. This is exactly like the seitei iai and seitei kenjutsu kata, for the reasons above. Depending on how you count, SMR works out to about 64 kata; ten of them (and two waza that aren't kata by SMR's tradition) make up the ZNKR seitei jo curriculum.Quote:
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When I trained in aikido in the AYANA organization (an offshoot of Yoshinkan), maybe 1/3 to 1/2 of our time was spent on weaponry: bokken, jo, and tanto.
Ahh got it , thanks guys.
Hi Tom, Sensei Craig teaches jo kata and boken in Aikido class every Wednesday. Classes recommence for 2006 on Weds 8th February.
best wishes.
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Here is a page with some Aiki jo on it....
http://aiki-jo.tripod.com/
What kind of Aiki-Jo was that? Maitre Brun?
Most ZNKR affiliated Jo dojo will teach the 12 Seitei Jo kata first, then as you get more experienced you will be taught the Koryu Jo sets, and the other weapons.