who is faster ITF or WTF?

[OlympicTkD]

I train in WTF and we train on speed and power and iv'e seen some ITF and i wasn't impressed, wat ur opinin and why?

[DragonMind]

First impression is that this is actually a silly question with trollish overtones. Organization has nothing to do with speed. Your phrasing suggests you're really interested in provoking a fight. Your visit here will be remarkably short if you persist in this type of thing.

Second is that you apparently didn't read the rules you agreed to when you signed up. Netspeak is not welcome here.

Third, if you'd like to try and ask a legitimate question, please do so. Otherwise this thread will be shut off.

[garrett]

i know what you mean, i think they have rules on how hard you can hit and stuff so they seem to hit very light whereas wtf you can hit as hard as you like

[loppy]

im stupid in nettalk but what does these means wtf, ITF,?

[Akuma]

Don't worry Loppy...netspeak is studid and encourages young people to not use proper grammer. However, WTF and ITF are not netspeak. They are different Taekwondo federations. WTF is World Taekwondo Fed. and ITF is International Taekwondo Fed. And neither one of these organizations has anything to do with speed or power...that has a lot to do with the individual. Personally, I'm getting a little sick of the anti-ITF spamming going on here...perhaps we need a cross training session for our WTF friends. Peace.

[Brandon]

The only validity of this thread might be the difference in sparring methods between the ITF and the WTF. I am ITF, so understand that when I say the following that I am in no way trying to make a slam. From what I've experienced WTF encourages a full contact hit with considerable impact to even be considered a point, while in ITF you simply have to "tap" the target point. Now as far as power and speed, I agree that would depend on the student. I see no "key" differences of the WTF to generate more speed or power than ITF. They are just a little more aggressive when it comes to sparring in the organization. Put them up against bricks and boards and see that there is no difference in power. It takes a lot more skill to demonstrate "control" and that would have an impact on speed during a sparring match knowing that another factor is in play. $.02

[loppy]

Nettalk should be forbitten. By the end of the school they can not even write or even spell the words.

Thank you for explaining me the 3 letters. I never would thought of that these where federations.

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[Eliz]

I train in WTF and we train on speed and power and iv'e seen some ITF and i wasn't impressed, wat ur opinin and why?

My opinion is that I am not impressed by threads that SHOUT lack of experience. You can't possibly "see some ITF" and judge every school in the entire federation. Further, I know of many WTF schools that don't do any sparring whatsoever. It seems the insurance companies are making business a little tough, consequently schools are just flat out cancelling their sparring programs.

[Black Fox]

good point on the insurance.
the technique base seems identical to me.
both consisting of TKD and all.

i like well done TKD.

subjectivity and chance interplay between masters, student body, individual intent to produce most observed differences in the expresion/application of identical techniques.

the quality of people drawn to such schools mainly depends on geography and cultural considerations and their values. a very liberal location might get you a student base and it could resemble a new-age convention. and a location with alot of crime would certainly draw a person with a line of thought divergant from a more suberbain setting and all this will affect the focus and potential of the school and the students.

this difference can so greatly influence the registry of a school a single neighborhood a few blocks away in some places can make a world of difference in this one regard.

hope we can help w/ any confusions.

[OlympicTkD]

I meant nothing to offend anyone by the way just simply asking a question

[Eliz]

Thanks Josh. There are a lot of comparisons between the WTF and ITF. Some are pretty informative, others are down right offensive. Of late, there has been a bit of a rush on the latter. In general, we try to avoid judging the worth of a practitioner solely by the 3 letters preceeding TKD.

[J_eremiah]

The ITF School in my city was not very good. The WTF school I am with now is awsome. Not even the instructors at the ITF school here kick with their hip. At the WTF School I am at now that was one of the first things I learned. We have had ITF instructors visit our school and their upper ranking belts could not win in sparring against our lower ranking belts because they couldnt kick when in close and could not take a hit. We spar full contact with Hogu and head gear. I don't know how ITF practice sparring is in ITF School.


*I am not bashing any ITF People here, just using the 2 schools in my city for a comparison. If its any consolation, both require dedication and skill to master.

[AndrewSimonsen]

I have seen high level ITF students lose in WTF sparring to WTF students who have a lower rank. I have seen high level WTF students lose in ITF sparring to lower ranking ITF students. In my experience people tend to lose at things they have never done before.
To give an example; a Greco Roman Wrestler will be at a disadvantage when going against a seasoned Folkstyle Wrestler in a folkstyle match. They may both be very skilled, but because a Greco Roman wrestler has no experience defending against leg attacks he will not know how to defend against them. He could go against a wrestler who is not as skilled as he is overall, but lose because though they both wrestle this is not the kind of wrestling that he has experience with.
In this case it is probably a case of the game and not the players.

[Bugeisha]

I've tapped wrestlers, and I have almost no ground game. They shot, took me down, gained a dominant position, and were choked out. Although they were easily able to take me down and move me around, they hadn't ever had to deal with neck attacks.
Had they trained with chokes, they would have destroyed me, but as it was, it was a learning experience for everyone.

[Button Moon]

Speed is down to genetics as well as technique. WTF may give the impression of speed but with full contact landing theres not the emphasis on control as their is in ITF taekwondo.

ITF taekwondo do a lot of breaking so there is plenty of speed there.

[Gae-Bek]

These ITF vs. WTF threads never do anyone any good. Consider this one closed.