09-30-2005, 18:09 #41
Just Zionists, who are viscious, racist, and violent (and violence ties in with MAs), and who get $5 billion of my taxes every year while I cannot get healthcare on my own no matter how much I am willing to pay.
I have no problem with Jews - have nice friends, a great boss, and some delightful relatives. There's a big difference between the two.
On another note, so what's the deal with "melting" instead of slapping out?
Could someone elaborate on this, please?I realize you think you understand what you thought I said, but what I am not so sure about is whether what you think you heard is what I think I meant.
09-30-2005, 18:36 #42
A. The avatar is a member of the IDF Special Forces.
B. Krav Maga is Israeli combat art. Born and tested in fire and hell.
C. The people of Israel and the IDF deeply regret the lost of innocent lives, and have done everything possible to minimize the casualties of war. A war that is imposed upon Israel.
D. The State of Israel has gone out of its way to avoid civilian casualties. But the enemies have purposely targeted civilian.
E. Palestinian children are sacrificed by terrorists and their masterminds. Their blood is on the hands of those perpetrators.
F. There are no slackers in the elite forces. You can't pull your weight, you wouldn't even make the cut.
H. Those are the facts. Virulent venom from out of main stream sources, change nothing. Much like a mad dog barking at the mountain.
09-30-2005, 18:39 #43
Originally Posted by Erik
Either stay with the facts and issues or you can take your racist remark and shove it up your you know what.
09-30-2005, 18:41 #44
I think this is getting a bit politicra*! Please let's stick to the main issue, for others please PM.
BudoSeek! forum (Mods correct me if wrong) is a martial arts forum.Samy Skalli
艱難汝を玉にす - kan-nan nanji o tama ni su
09-30-2005, 18:54 #45
Originally Posted by G Hendrix
Now come on out to San Francisco and I'll be glad to hand your candy *** back to you.
I'll even introduce you to a slacker PJ who can try put it back on for you, but I wouldn't trust him myself as he's a slacker despite his special operations pedigree.
As per Samy's post, we can resolve the rest of this with PM.
Last edited by Erik; 09-30-2005 at 19:19.I realize you think you understand what you thought I said, but what I am not so sure about is whether what you think you heard is what I think I meant.
09-30-2005, 19:25 #46
Let me get to the point. I don't care for the way you conduct yourself. I don't care for what you have to say. I have nothing to say to you, in public nor in PM.
Originally Posted by Erik
My apology to the Benevolent Dictator, for this confrontation in his house.
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09-30-2005, 20:11 #47
For some background information on various Israeli combat arts.
For some insight on the work of YAMAN,
The info will offer a glimpse of the life and death struggle in the holyland.
09-30-2005, 20:12 #48
Don't apologise Hendrix; I'm sure Erik has a few black friends too..., and I'm sure when a 12 year old kid will walk into a restaurant where he is sitting with his family and blow himself and half of his family away he will still talk about poor innocent kids. Erik you have no idea what goes on in Israel nor do you have any idea what it is like to be a minority or be hated for your race, nationality or religion. So even though this is not my house but Benevolent Dictators I will say this ***SHUT UP*** when you have nothing smart to say. If you don't like Moni or you don't like his DVD you have a full right to state your opinion, on another hand if you have a problem with him 'cause he is a Jew you got a problem with me. I know I may be wrong for saying this in an MA forum, but a man alot better then me once said "For evil to triumph, all good man must do is remain silent" . As far as I am concerned you owe apology to the Jews and to the Arabs who have lost their lives in this stupid war. But for many of us that war is real and you should keep your remarks and your racism out of this forum and to yourself.
09-30-2005, 20:31 #49
Originally Posted by TIRAGION
So please cut it off, this is a war that has been everlasting, there's no one "better" than the others. IsralŽlian soldiers shoot down kids, Palestinians blow kids. Both kill, if you claim one is superior it'd be either lack of knowledge or biased opinion. I don't have anything against both "sides" as I'm part of none of them, but I've been in the army, but I can say that this war isn't something that can be solved by "we're good they're bad".
As a famous French actor said: "When you don't know, shut up".
Plus it is definetly not the place to talk about. So everyone I think this trash should be kept somewhere else than a Martial Art forum, this is not "PoliticSeek!".
PS: sorry for appearing harsh there's no willing
to make this post hotter but to get attention back
on its original topic.
Last edited by Nin; 09-30-2005 at 20:41.Samy Skalli
艱難汝を玉にす - kan-nan nanji o tama ni su
09-30-2005, 20:40 #50
Read the second to last sentence Samy, I never said Israelis don't hurt palestinians. My remarks were to Erik's statement but if you wish to second his remarks it applies to you too. As I said don't bring attrocities of war to the forum and say one side is right and one side is wrong. They both are WRONG,,and I'm a JeW and I have no problem saying it, THEY ARE BOTH WRONG... But I will not allow anyone you , Erik , no-one to put blame on Israel for wanting to survive when for every one israeli there are 50 arabs. If you have anything else you want to say to me say it in PM. This thread is already way way of original topic
09-30-2005, 22:33 #51
This has gone politcal. Political discussions are NOT allowed on Budoseek.
Drop it NOW.
The next person to post - for or against - the political situation in the middle east will find themselvs taking a break from Budoseek.
09-30-2005, 22:36 #52
Erik, to answer your question regarding slap vs melt... please check the RMA section. Ill write something up, Jay and Jeff (and who ever else) can add their 2 cents there.
10-01-2005, 13:28 #53
Originally Posted by Sgathak
艱難汝を玉にす - kan-nan nanji o tama ni su
10-01-2005, 16:48 #54
Id still like to know if Gabriel ever served.
"Krav Maga is Israeli combat art. Born and tested in fire and hell."
Yeah every martial art in the world can say that.
The videos IMHO stunk.
10-01-2005, 20:11 #55
Asking a guy for his credentials is fair play...
10-02-2005, 01:26 #56
The Combat Survival DVDs in question are Moni Aizik's rendition of Krav Maga. They are not 'the one and only' Krav Maga. Krav Maga is a generalized term for Israeli combat arms. To criticise Krav Maga is like to criticise Karate. To say that Moni's Combat Survival sucks, is like saying Joe's Karate sucks. May be it does suck. I don't know. I have not seen his DVDs. Even if that is true then it is just Moni's rendition of Krav Maga that sucks.
Here is an overview of Krav Maga. It explains it a lot clearer. http://www.edgecombatfitness.com/Kravmaga.htm
Now, No where on this thread have I made any statement in support of, nor in criticism of the technical merits of the DVDs in discussion. Therefore, I fail to see how or why my service record is relevant to the topics at hand. Why come bitching at me over what someone thinks of the DVD's? Some of you said it is almost the same materials they teach. Some of you said it is almost identical to Systema. I, on the other hand, have made no comment on the technical merits of Moni's Combat Survival whatsoever. So?
If you read my posts, they clearly stated my objection is not to the criticism of the merit of Moni's Combat Survival, but rather to the absurd, bizzare, irrelevant and groundless political accusation heaped upon it.
The only thing I mentioned about Krav Maga is that, the generalized term for Israeli combat arts, is born and tested in combat. There is no refute of that fact. It is basic, efficient and effective. But the IDF has no delusion that it is the super-duper ultimate force multiplier. If anything, KM combatives instructors in the IDF are not occupying a high position. That is an indication of the relative lack of significance of the job. If there is any delusion, that is the result on the part of the people commercializing it.
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10-02-2005, 02:03 #57
Actually, I said that the material shown on the clips LOOKED like combat effective Systema. However that is ONLY what was on the clips... which leave plenty of "gray areas". I have never seen the videos, and from what I hear, the training methodology is quite different. So try not to put words in my mouth.
You were directly asked about what military experience you have. Please answer the question.
10-02-2005, 02:29 #58
I am sorry if I misstated your posts on the topics.
While I don't feel I have to answer the question, however as a matter of courtesy, I will share that I am not a US citiizen and I have never served in the US armed forces. My professional endeavour is in analysis. That is the most I have to say on this.
10-02-2005, 08:06 #59
Have you served was brought up cause you made comments about special forces members.
While that could have been answered with a easy yes or no you chose to dance around the subject.
It reminds me of something Spock said in a Star Trek episode. "I never ceased to amazed at woman's ability to not answer a direct question."
"While I don't feel I have to answer the question, however as a matter of courtesy, I will share that I am not a US citiizen and I have never served in the US armed forces. My professional endeavour is in analysis. That is the most I have to say on this."
Oh...are we to think its so secret you cant talk about it?
Joe Ill send you the DVDs if you want, I have no use for them.
However after starting to read "Your Money or Your life" I think you may not want the clutter or the clatter.
10-02-2005, 11:34 #60
Originally Posted by Chris McLean
There is one good point, however. I do agree that there are posters who came here to pitch their products on their first post. And a lot of time, in their only posts. May be there should be a rule against that.
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