Martial Arts College

**Stephanie_dee** · 10-28-2005, 10:14

I was just wondering, is there such a thing as a real MA college? Where you study the Art as well as practise it? Even get some kind of qualification/rank or something? I was looking on the web but I couldn't find anything as such. Does something like that even exist? And if there are any, where are they? (England ideally!!)

**rgoad** · 10-28-2005, 10:34

Check out Sandhurst or West Point. Seriously, their curriculua are more comprehensive than anything you will find anywhere else.

Review their reading lists. The movement of squads, companies, and even Divisions teaches martial arts even on the personal level especially with respect to combined arms.

**Stephanie_dee** · 10-28-2005, 11:18

Originally Posted by rgoad

Check out Sandhurst or West Point. Seriously, their curriculua are more comprehensive than anything you will find anywhere else.

Review their reading lists. The movement of squads, companies, and even Divisions teaches martial arts even on the personal level especially with respect to combined arms.

Where are they? Do you have a website for them?

**rgoad** · 10-28-2005, 11:26

Sandhurst and War College. The War College is a better source of information than West Point. To immerse yourself in an Asian Martial Arts curriculum you should try to get employed to teach abroad, if you have the inclination and skills.

Actually, you may have more luck with an Uchi Deshi programme in UK.

**ling hou** · 10-28-2005, 11:39

hey Steph
hope this helps
http://www.bridgeport.edu/pages/3868.asp
there is also a university in Beijing but you need to get a 5 out of 6 on HSK (Chinese language exam)
My question to you is what do you want to do with the degree, what are your goal? There are many diffrent paths you can take.
I went the history path. Studying chinese history...which allowed me to look into a lot of philosophy, culture, war, agriculture and economics...a little bit of everything.
If you are looking at opening a school, then maybe marketing or some degree that had more to do with running a school.
West Point is one of the famous military schools in the US. Sandhurst is a very famous Royal Military Academy. I dont beleive that is what you are really looking for, but I could be wrong. If you are looking at military history (which you dont have to be in the military) there are some really good programs out there, KSU (Kansas State University) has a really good program (as an example).

**Sgathak** · 10-28-2005, 13:17

In the US, Naropa offers an undergrad degree in either Aikido or Tai Chi. The Tai Chi is.... well.. its CMC... sooooo I wouldnt spend anywhere NEAR what they are asking for classes. But the Aikido program looks OK. Naropa is a private Buddhist university, so along with Aikido, they also have alot of classes on zen, meditation, kyudo, shakuhachi, ikebana.

I dont think Id go there JUST for a degree in Aikido, but they have a few Masters programs and I think Id look into getting their Aikido certificate.

**DragonMind** · 10-28-2005, 13:29

Originally Posted by Stephanie_dee

I was just wondering, is there such a thing as a real MA college? Where you study the Art as well as practise it? Even get some kind of qualification/rank or something? I was looking on the web but I couldn't find anything as such. Does something like that even exist? And if there are any, where are they? (England ideally!!)

Since you specifically asked about a MA college, I assume you're looking for something that would have valid academic credentials that would be useful in some way outside the MA world. Short answer is no. There are several who advertise themselves as MA degree programs but on the whole they are academically unsound and many are pure frauds.

**Musubi Dojo** · 10-28-2005, 13:54

I believe the and University of Toronto offered some kind of degree that judo and japanese history were a major component of. This was told to me by a friend many years ago, so It may or may not be vaild anymore.

I do remember going to the U of T to participate in some sort of study on the effects of different kinds of conditioning on competitive Judo players. This was in the early eighties and the program was dropped due to insurance concerns...

Good luck!
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**slamdunc** · 10-28-2005, 14:15

You could always earn a degree in physical fitness education with specialized coursework in martial arts. I should also include economics, business management and accounting courses, if you plan on opening a school.
For your sciences should concentrate on anatomy & physiology and reflexology, as well as physics. Also throw in studies of Eastern cultures & languages (Japanese being the most common & easiest to learn).
If any accredited school were to offer a legitimate degree in martial sciences, it would have to be very well-rounded. There are so many angles to consider; it would also depend on how you were going to apply your learning.
I know several people with letters behind their names, I also know a lot of intelligent folks who have no degree, but are subject-matter experts in their own rights. Life experiences are often the best things to draw upon.

**Eye4NEye** · 10-28-2005, 14:17

There is a college here in VA that offers a Phy Ed degree with an emphasis on martial arts.

It's either Radford or VA Tech. I can't remember which one.

**moogong** · 10-28-2005, 14:22

Originally Posted by Eye4NEye

There is a college here in VA that offers a Phy Ed degree with an emphasis on martial arts.

It's either Radford or VA Tech. I can't remember which one.

It's Radford in Radford, Va.

**Stephanie_dee** · 10-30-2005, 06:00

Originally Posted by ling hou

hey Steph

My question to you is what do you want to do with the degree, what are your goal? There are many diffrent paths you can take.
I went the history path. Studying chinese history...which allowed me to look into a lot of philosophy, culture, war, agriculture and economics...a little bit of everything.
If you are looking at opening a school, then maybe marketing or some degree that had more to do with running a school.
West Point is one of the famous military schools in the US. Sandhurst is a very famous Royal Military Academy. I dont beleive that is what you are really looking for, but I could be wrong. If you are looking at military history (which you dont have to be in the military) there are some really good programs out there, KSU (Kansas State University) has a really good program (as an example).

My honest reply to that is, I don't know!

I have lost my sense of direction in life. I no longer know what I want to do, what I want to achieve. I just feel lost. I don't know what I want. Martial arts is the only thing that I am certain about. I love it, i truly do, and I want to study it properly, not just have one or two lessons a week. I didn't know that you could get a degree from those colleges!

In an ideal world I would do a Kill Bill or a Batman, just leave for Japan to study martial arts utterly and entirely for a few years with a world class sensei in some remote land at the top of a mountain! However, it is highly unlikely that that will ever happen! So the next best thing is going to a college to study. To find myself and all of that...

**RRousselot** · 10-30-2005, 07:36

There is the International Budo University in Japan. It’s basically a Sports Science University where you can train in and study any Japanese MA along with baseball, swimming, etc.

here is the link

http://www.budo-u.ac.jp/index2.html

**rgoad** · 10-30-2005, 19:06

Stephanie,

I just had a thought: You are a young fit woman, have you ever thought about police work? You could get really good training and justify getting additinal martail arts training as well. I've known many police officers from around the world sent to training for the purpose of improving their defensive skills. There is so much exchange these days. Maybe you could be a defensive tactics training officer.

**TonyU** · 10-30-2005, 19:11

Originally Posted by rgoad

Stephanie,

I just had a thought: You are a young fit woman, have you ever thought about police work? You could get really good training and justify getting additinal martail arts training as well. I've known many police officers from around the world sent to training for the purpose of improving their defensive skills. There is so much exchange these days. Maybe you could be a defensive tactics training officer.

Not exactly.

First, you have to find the right tactics being taught. You have alot of wannabes just like in MA.

Second, the department has to be progressive enough to send you to these programs. Departments like that are hard to come by.

I'm DT instructor and most if not all the training I got was from my own expense.

**rgoad** · 10-30-2005, 20:42

Tony,

That's too bad. I've been lucky to have access to training and I guess I thought all the civilian types had it, too. My first instructors were all LEO and DT instructors. They would write up requirements for training and get funding. They even did Gracie training a few years ago. It may be a local thing.