Krav maga

**Thai boxing badger** · 02-25-2006, 11:28

Hey just wanted your thoughts on Krav maga.

**Xuzen** · 02-26-2006, 10:09

Originally Posted by Thai boxing badger

Hey just wanted your thoughts on Krav maga.

Lovely practical self defense endeavour/pursuit. Quick to learn and easy to apply, does not overly rely on atheletism and does not carry any spirtual/ki/chi/oriental mysticism baggage.

I personally do not consider Krav Maga as an martial art, more like a skill set. Learning Krav Maga is like taking a motorcycle repair class, it teaches what it does best, in Krav' s case... Self Defense.

Any other thing you wish to know about ol' Kravy?

**bvermillion** · 02-26-2006, 10:56

I would recommend doing a quick search of past threads on this topic as it has been discussed quite a few times.

**masterrankin** · 02-26-2006, 20:44

great art one of the best

**TonyU** · 02-26-2006, 20:49

Mr. Rankin,
This is not the proper place to advertise you site.
The topic of this thread is Krav Maga. Lets keep it on topic.

**Jeff Burger** · 02-26-2006, 22:05

Best thing I see about Krav Maga is the effectiveness of their over hype marketing.

You can get certified to be a instructor in a very short period of time.

School owners buy their areas (cancelling any competition in your area).
I doubt this would hold water in court if someone challenged it.

I bought a 5 DVD series from someone who is supposed to be top notch. I wouldnt use them as coasters cause I dont want to be reminded what a waste of $$$ the purchase was.

I have heard good things about the orginal Krav Maga,but like every other art once money becomes an important issue things go down hill fast.

However if Im ever attacked by 3 men who dont realize that their machine guns work at a distance I may have some tactics that could save my life.

Jeff

**Nin** · 02-26-2006, 22:40

That's a simple and efficient art not overloading you with spirituality, traditions etc... You are only taught "simple stuffs" for (more or less) "common" close combat situations.

I agree on Jeff's point that KM is being too much advertised. Some claim to turn you into a movie deadly commando in a matter of weeks (or days)...

But it remains a very good art if you're looking for efficiency and not really the spiritual side of the martial arts.

**TonyU** · 02-27-2006, 06:13

Originally Posted by Nin

But it remains a very good art if you're looking for efficiency and not really the spiritual side of the martial arts.

Then it's not an art IMO.
It's a skill set, not an art.

**Nin** · 02-27-2006, 06:30

Originally Posted by TonyU

Then it's not an art IMO.
It's a skill set, not an art.

A martial art by definition I think is an "art for war purpose". KM is part of the training of several law enforcement (which is also a kind of war) and military organizations, so shouldn't it be also considered as a martial art?

**Jeff Burger** · 02-27-2006, 06:38

Well when do you call something a MA?

If I teach them someone to spit in the face, kick groin, hit eyes, hit throat are they trained in MAs or did they just learn some skills?

I think for me to be considered an art it needs to be more than that.

Jeff

**TonyU** · 02-27-2006, 06:40

Originally Posted by Nin

A martial art by definition I think is an "art for war purpose". KM is part of the training of several law enforcement (which is also a kind of war) and military organizations, so shouldn't it be also considered as a martial art?

I don't know.

But it could be that just that I woke up little phylisophical this morning and with alot of soreness.

**Nin** · 02-27-2006, 06:50

Originally Posted by Jeff Burger

Well when do you call something a MA?

If I teach them someone to spit in the face, kick groin, hit eyes, hit throat are they trained in MAs or did they just learn some skills?

I think for me to be considered an art it needs to be more than that.

Jeff

I agree with you, a martial art should be a system, I mean structures (instructor and students/trainees relation), qualifications on a focus for this art: war purpose. Several Asian MA were "designed" for this purpose. Whether it is defensive, offensive or mixed actions.

Ano example of a martial art could be the sniper training. I never went through it but it looks a great and complex training with a focus: train to gain a set of skills for war purpose.

Only my opinion though. And I apologize if I'm not clear on explaining my point of view but I haven't slept last night at all and I'm only half way through the day!

**rgoad** · 02-27-2006, 07:03

Originally Posted by Jeff Burger

Well when do you call something a MA?

If I teach them someone to spit in the face, kick groin, hit eyes, hit throat are they trained in MAs or did they just learn some skills?

I think for me to be considered an art it needs to be more than that.

Not to muddy the water, but what about the "-Do"s and "-jutsu"s of Japanese arts? One is an path, way, and very spiritual. The other is skill almost exclusively.

For a Western mind art would indicate a that a broader 'feel' and understanding of the subject matter exists that expresses itself in a specific instance. Inductive logic versus deductive logic, if you will. E.g. Medical Arts, which have very precise methods, yet are 'arts'.