Sanda / San Shou

**TIRAGION** · 03-13-2006 01:42

I was hoping to get some info from the CMA community as to some Sanda tournaments and schools in SE florida. I saw a few matches recently on web, kinda liked it and would like to give it a shot. Any and all info be appreciated. I'm especially interested in tourney info.

Thanks in Advance

Alexander

**sean_stonehart** · 03-13-2006 06:38

John Wai in Ft Lauderdale... good sanda there.

www.floridakungfu.com

**Xuzen** · 03-28-2006 22:45

People, just a quick question... where does the sanda/san shou people derive their syllabus from?

**sean_stonehart** · 03-29-2006 06:42

From whatever CMA their school teaches I would guess. Our school does anyway. Everything we use in sanda training comes right out of the curriculum of the style, just minus the "traditional" stance on it. The hand work, foot work, take downs... it's all contained within the style. With our sanda, it's just emphasized in a competative aspect.

**Xuzen** · 03-29-2006 21:03

Originally Posted by sean_stonehart

From whatever CMA their school teaches I would guess. Our school does anyway. Everything we use in sanda training comes right out of the curriculum of the style, just minus the "traditional" stance on it. The hand work, foot work, take downs... it's all contained within the style. With our sanda, it's just emphasized in a competative aspect.

Sean,

So, Sanda is like Randori in Judo or Kumite in Karate? Silly me, I always thought Sanda as a style/school of CMA.

**sean_stonehart** · 03-29-2006 21:16

Originally Posted by Xuzen

Sean,

So, Sanda is like Randori in Judo or Kumite in Karate? Silly me, I always thought Sanda as a style/school of CMA.

Not really, but yeah kinda. San Da is more of a skill than a style, but with the new resurgence in fighting competatively, San Da could very well be a "style" within itself. There are San Da competitions with their own rule sets, fight promoters, etc...

Check out www.NYSanda.com for more info.

**Yang Wei Xin** · 03-30-2006 10:10

Excuse me for throwing in my .02 cents, and correct me if im wrong, but the main aspect of san da is that it is a fighting competition on a platform, with the objective of knocking your opponent off the platform. As opposed to sanshou which takes place in a ring or open area, and points are given for takedowns and strikes.

**sean_stonehart** · 03-30-2006 10:12

Originally Posted by Yang Wei Xin

Excuse me for throwing in my .02 cents, and correct me if im wrong, but the main aspect of san da is that it is a fighting competition on a platform, with the objective of knocking your opponent off the platform. As opposed to sanshou which takes place in a ring or open area, and points are given for takedowns and strikes.

I believe you're thinking about the Lei Tai platform.

San da is Cantonese & San shou is Mandarin, but same words/meaning.

**Yang Wei Xin** · 03-30-2006 10:24

Ahh, thank you.

**mi_man** · 03-30-2006 17:04

Aint muaythai and sanda school mixed quite often.....

**sean_stonehart** · 03-30-2006 19:48

Not really... but they work well together

**Stararrow** · 04-21-2006 07:56

Both the terms of "Sanda" and "Sanshou" are of the Mandarin dialect of Chinese, and they refer two very different things.

Sanda - A style of sportive combat which contained elements of Western Boxing, selected Kungfu hand techniques, Chinese Wrestling Throws (Shuaijao), and in its military style which also contains techniques of Qinna (Chin-Na).

Sanshou - A term referring to a set or a system of techinques of a given Kungfu style which trains its practitioner the usage of the key elements and/or "secret" concepts of the style's and/or instructor's combat core apart from the routines. The routines are set-movements whilst Sanshou techniques are free-movements.

**James O'Neill** · 04-21-2006 08:20

...Don't mind me fellas - just saw this the other day & figured I'd share: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4QdF...arch=cung%20le

Cung Le's MMA debut fight...

**batosa** · 05-10-2006 16:57

wait wait wait wait i though sanda and sanshou were the same thing and i actually just took my first class this saturday. it's very much like muay thai. maybe i'm wrong i just took one class. if they are the same thing what is the difference between sanda/sanshou and muay thai?

**Yang Wei Xin** · 05-10-2006 17:04

sanda and sanshou have a full array of takedowns and sweeps where muay thai has a more limited set of grappling techniques.

**batosa** · 05-10-2006 17:31

so would you say the boxing and kicking attacks are very similar?

**Yang Wei Xin** · 05-10-2006 17:36

sanshou isn't an art so much as a ruleset, you could use the boxing and kicking techniques right out of muay thai and be doind sanshou.

or you could come in and do some judo throws and be doing sanshou.

I think most places train sanshou with basic kickboxing techniques with the takedowns thrown on top.

**Margaret Lo** · 05-11-2006 16:10

Originally Posted by TIRAGION

I was hoping to get some info from the CMA community as to some Sanda tournaments and schools in SE florida. I saw a few matches recently on web, kinda liked it and would like to give it a shot. Any and all info be appreciated. I'm especially interested in tourney info.

Thanks in Advance

Alexander

I've seen Cung Le's sanshou fights and while he's good and effective, I don't see the link to CMA. He looks rather like any other kickboxer with an emphasis on take downs. In fact sanshou doesn't seem especially unique to me.

M

**sean_stonehart** · 05-12-2006 11:33

Margaret... it's pretty much just kickboxing with a bit of Chinese Shuai jiao type throws included. It's really nothing big. New name for old hat at best.

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