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04-29-2006, 23:43 #1Super Moderator
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Can you slip punches?
Like this?
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04-29-2006, 23:46 #2Member
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Dude! (ten character rule satisfied)
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04-29-2006, 23:52 #3
Who is that against Ali?
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Don't I wish!
What fight was this clip from?Tony Dismukes
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The fact that he can read his opponant like that blows my mind.
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DAMN!! That was so nice it looked choreographed, LOL!
Why the assumption that you can beat us without rules when you can't beat us with rules? Those rules happen to protect both of us, it would seem that most have forgotten that small yet significant point. What's keeping me from maiming you for life when I get position and you obviously can't get away? The rules, take those rules away and I'll curb you [sic] right after I knock/choke you out.
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Which kata do I practice to do that!
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04-30-2006, 05:51 #8
That's Ernie Terrell he's fighting. He's the guy the WBA decided should be their world champion despite Ali already being the undisputed owner of the world championship. He was the first splinter heavyweight titlist. Terrell was a tall man who Ali nicknamed Octopus. Not a bad fighter at all, and he had a very good winning streak coming into this bout, beating good fighters like Cleveland Williams (avenging a previous loss), Zora Folley, Bob Foster, Eddie Machen, George Chuvalo and Doug Jones.
Terrell at that point is very set in a single rhythm and it is easy for a kinesthetic genius like Ali to play with that. Slipping is easy if you're taught right, though I didn't always think so. A lot of guys try showboating like this without moving directly from a position of total control and they just look stupid instead of masterful.
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04-30-2006, 07:46 #9
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04-30-2006, 08:01 #10Member
That's impressive. I honestly would have thought that kind of ability was movie-fu fantasy until I saw this thread.
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That takes confidence in your ability to slip/duck/weave to keep your hands down like that. I suppose his ability to read body language was pretty good at that point.
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04-30-2006, 15:51 #12
Thats crazy! I can only hope to do that one day!
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No, but I can block with my face real well.Can you slip punches?"I don't lift, too heavy. I don't run, too far. I just hit people.
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Ali was without question the best boxer ever, all things considered. He made boxing beautiful. His stuff was effortless. Funny, his smoothness and polish caused many to mistakenly think he lacked power. AsK Foreman, Frazier, Liston, and quite a few others.
If we could engineer time, I'd like to see Ali fight Marciano and Tyson with all of them in their prime. God, boxing Heaven!
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Ali vs. Marciano would have been a serious clash of the titans. Dream match. Undefeated brutal power vs. an undisputed master of the ring. Same with Tyson, I'd sell stuff to be able to buy a ticket or even a PPV to see a match like these.
Where is "master of dicuise2", that said "boxing doesn't impress him"...
Looks pretty f'ing impressive to me...Ali never even raises his hands, masterful.
Great clip Cliff.Last edited by David Craik; 04-30-2006 at 16:31.
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I'd put my money on Ali over Tyson. Tyson was mean, relentless, hit hard and could take a punch, but his techniques wasn't all that great. Thats why he started getting beat so much later in his career.
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I'd pick Ali over both, but Marciano would be tough.
Originally Posted by TEA
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04-30-2006, 17:51 #18
Great as he was, Ali wasn't even the best heavyweight. That honor belongs to Joe Louis or maybe Jack Johnson. Ali was no technician either... he was sui generis pugilistic genius. He won fights with his mind, by taking charge of the flow of the fight. A ring general like none other.
Mike Tyson was actually a very technical fighter in his day, but he was also very mechanical and that was his biggest flaw, like Andersen's Nightingale. Unless the machine is maintained, it breaks down.
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Nice. I hope I see somebody of Ali's caliber in my lifetime.
If it were between Ali and Tyson, I would put my money on Ali. Ali used to get in the fighters mind to confuse and frustrate them, that would have been pretty easy with Tyson. I don't think Ali would have lasted long if Tyson would have unleashed on him in a corner but I can't imagine Ali getting caught in that position.Death is but a door. Time is but a window. I'll be back - Vigo the Carpathian
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Alie wouldnt have a problem with tyson, and i think he prob had the same power as tyson..
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