A really awful video depicting the downfall of kung fu

**Shrfu_Eric** · 05-22-2006, 15:30

that looks like wushu ballet ... lmao ...

oh well .. I guess if people are entertained

Eric

**AllanJGAnderson** · 05-22-2006, 16:21

I may be mistaken but I believe that somewhere I have read about the ties and links between Chinese MA and Chinese Opera. Any one got anything?

**Yang Wei Xin** · 05-23-2006, 11:13

They are definitely linked, thats where sammo hung, yuen biao, and jackie chan all came from, and i'm sure many more.

See the movie "painted faces".

However, this clip looks nothing like chinese opera.

**Qasim** · 06-06-2006, 12:26

Originally Posted by Musubi Dojo

Good lord, what was that?
Some sort of Chinese Opera?

That's an insult to Chinese Opera.

**Qasim** · 06-06-2006, 12:28

Originally Posted by AndrewSimonsen

It is a theater production.

No, it was a BAD theatre production.

**Vagabond** · 07-10-2006, 21:09

That was.... disturbing. Oh and by the way Capoeira is nothing like that! God that was creepy.

**Lazybutstubborn** · 08-25-2006, 03:19

movies embelish all forms of the martial arts, i've seen Taekwondo look just as ridiculous in movies, we should not pass judgement on an art we haven't really seen in it's true, non movie form, some of the standing kicks i saw could give a Moo Duk Kwon veteran a hard time, the ground kicks and spinning were probably over dramatized to look good for the movie cause i can't imagine having the presence of mind,energy, or guts to try that in a real fight. I'm referring to Capoeira, the Kung Fu video was just sad, Bruce Lee must be doing subterrainean 360's right now.

**GodofGamblers** · 08-25-2006, 04:43

Originally Posted by Ellis Amdur

There are actual newspaper articles with drawn pictures from about 1900 showing these dapper men about town in white suits, doing what was called capoeira carioca - the articles were about who disemboweled who in a street fight the night before, the illustrations showing how, for example, one guy sidestepped, dropping to a hand on the ground, slashing with the razor.
Theres a lot more to it - its a game, its fighting training in an urban environment, it's got that African "I'm not just going to beat you, I'm going to make you look bad" attitude that you get in dance, street-ball, whatever, and, I'm informed, it was a training of the tactics of surviving life from the bottom - called Malicia - how people on the bottom, who don't know the rules, who are the wrong color, class, etc., can learn to game and con and conceal themselves, so to speak, to get by in a dominant culture.
And, my friend informs me, this is all almost lost - in Brazil as much as elsewhere.

Best

That is very interesting. Where can I find more info on Malicia? it sounds very interesting: a sort of subculture which reminds me Leung Ting's (sic?) SECRETS OF THE VAGABONDS. Do you have a link?

**wildwills** · 08-25-2006, 06:16

Originally Posted by WhiteBeltJones

Wasn't "the centipede" an 80's breakdancing staple?

Too bad Nucleus' "Jam On It" wasn't playing in the background....

**toryander** · 08-25-2006, 09:23

Originally Posted by WhiteBeltJones

Well, as far as artistry and atheleticism goes, that was pretty impressive.

Wasn't "the centipede" an 80's breakdancing staple?

I have to agree with WhiteBeltJones. The Kung Fu clip showed great artistry and very good athleticism. Of course it was just a stage production. I don't think they intended us to see it as anything else. Think "fundraiser." Having their physical ability would sure enhance my core training in TKD.

As for the Capoeira clip--that is a great choreographed scene. The capoeira fellow sure had control of his body and looked great. He made the Muay Thai guy look boring. Problem is, he used so much energy with so little effect. The Muay Thai fellow just had to evade and bide his time until the opening came and then he finished it.

**Si Xing** · 08-25-2006, 22:59

true the capoeirista has fallen, but all in all it was a choreographed movie somone has to lose, and when that one person does is most likely going to cause controversy. All i say to each his own.

**Chunkstyle** · 08-26-2006, 19:35

Maybe it was the "New Wave Shaolin Rendition Of Cats!"

Capoeria is pretty cool. My old roommate studied it for a long time. I found before I moved in when I went hang out with him and there was some interesting music playing when I got there. There are a lot of neat takedowns in Capoeria. I thought it was purely striking but I was way off.

**Thai boxing badger** · 10-26-2006, 13:20

Everyone do the southern funky chicken fist!

**krhodes31** · 11-18-2006, 20:06

I had taken a little of Capoeria and Muy Thai. Neither art in that video looked like what we did. I guess that this is a classic example of Movie-Fu or Hollywood-Ryu.