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**Mekugi** · 05-17-2006, 20:23

More and more...will it ever end??

**Prince Loeffler** · 05-17-2006, 20:43

These are great stuff Russ ! Thank you for sharing all these wonderful links !

**Mekugi** · 05-17-2006, 22:06

Originally Posted by Prince Loeffler

These are great stuff Russ ! Thank you for sharing all these wonderful links !

Sure!
My only hope is the names are all correct. Some of the tape doesn't have the names of the ryuha being demonstrated, so there may be errata.

**Gunyo Kogusoku** · 05-18-2006, 07:45

Russ,

what are the differences between Seigo-ryu group 1 & 2? Are they different orgs?

**Charles Mahan** · 05-18-2006, 10:17

Originally Posted by Mekugi

More and more...will it ever end??

Muso Jikiden Eishin ryu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-_KTYjZIH8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdsdzSG5Fts

These are probably ZNIR/Seitokai guys. I say that based largely on the fact that the first kata both guys do in the first video come from the ZNIR Toho set. I don't recognize them, but the video is a bit grainy and there are thousands of ZNIR/Seitokai folks in Japan. If I'm not mistaken, the second group is considerably more advanced than the first group.

Any idea who these folks are in in the other video you've posted and what branch they might be associated with?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6kV3...20Eishin%20Ryu

**Mekugi** · 05-18-2006, 22:08

Originally Posted by Gunyo Kogusoku

Russ,

what are the differences between Seigo-ryu group 1 & 2? Are they different orgs?

Yeah different schools. Same stuff, same embu.

**Mekugi** · 05-18-2006, 22:09

Originally Posted by Charles Mahan

Any idea who these folks are in in the other video you've posted and what branch they might be associated with?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6kV3...20Eishin%20Ryu

I am not sure. I will have to dig out my flyer from the embu.

**Scott Irey** · 06-05-2006, 00:50

They definitely do look like they are doing Seitokai MJER. i can't say I know either group demonstrating although the practitioner on the far right in the second video looks familiar to me. It has been too many years since I lived in Naogoya though so I am sure the current MJER crowd there is populated with a lot of folks I have never met.

Anyways, thanks for posting the videos Russ!

Regards,

Scott Irey

**Charles Mahan** · 06-05-2006, 12:15

Welcome to the forum Irey-sensei.

What about these guys? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6kV3...20Eishin%20Ryu

Any idea who they might be or what branch they are associated with?

**Mekugi** · 06-05-2006, 12:55

Originally Posted by Charles Mahan

Welcome to the forum Irey-sensei.

What about these guys? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6kV3...20Eishin%20Ryu

Any idea who they might be or what branch they are associated with?

That's the same video I listed above and I think Scott is talking about, isn't it?

**Charles Mahan** · 06-05-2006, 13:03

I thought Scott was talking about these two videos.

Muso Jikiden Eishin ryu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-_KTYjZIH8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdsdzSG5Fts

**Mekugi** · 06-05-2006, 13:36

OK that is easy to clear up...
HEY SCOTT...Which videos doth thou speak of?

-R

**Brian R. VanCise** · 06-05-2006, 15:05

Thanks!

Brian R. VanCise
www.instinctiveresponsetraining.com

**Alex Dale** · 06-05-2006, 23:08

Hey guys,

I posted this on E-Budo, but I'll post it here too.

From what I can tell, the group in question is the "Shinkage-ryu iai" group. If you do some searching at E-Budo and around the net you can find more info about them.

HTH.

**Charles Mahan** · 06-06-2006, 08:59

Eh??? You sure? Russ has them listed as an MJER group, and they do look like MJER, albeit somewhat different than I'm used too.

You sure we're talking about the same video?

**Mekugi** · 06-06-2006, 09:29

Now I am confused! Please post the link of the video you are talking about!!

**Charles Mahan** · 06-06-2006, 10:01

This is the video we've been talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6kV...%20Eishin%20Ryu

It's an Eishin Ryu group, different from the two you posted initially, but according to YouTube also posted by you.

This is the group I asked you about way up in the thread, and the one I asked Irey-sensei about.

**Alex Dale** · 06-06-2006, 17:31

Whoa whoa, sorry guys. Didn't mean to confuse y'all. My bad.

I was talking about the difference between the "Seigo-ryu" groups in question:

Originally Posted by Gunyo Kogusoku

Russ,

what are the differences between Seigo-ryu group 1 & 2? Are they different orgs?

Group 1 seems to be an exponent of the Owari Yagyu Shinkage-ryu, demonstrating the Yagyu Seigo-ryu of the Yagyukai.

Group 2, I believe, is from the "Shinkage-ryu iai" school, a school that broke off with the death of the previous headmaster of YSR.

Hope that helps / is accurate.

**Mekugi** · 06-06-2006, 17:48

Originally Posted by Alex Dale

Whoa whoa, sorry guys. Didn't mean to confuse y'all. My bad.

I was talking about the difference between the "Seigo-ryu" groups in question:

Group 1 seems to be an exponent of the Owari Yagyu Shinkage-ryu, demonstrating the Yagyu Seigo-ryu of the Yagyukai.

Group 2, I believe, is from the "Shinkage-ryu iai" school, a school that broke off with the death of the previous headmaster of YSR.

Hope that helps / is accurate.

Yeah that seems about right....I think. I can't remember exactly. They may both be splinter groups.

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