Major Anti-Terrorism Arrest in Southern Ontario

**Gordon Nore** · 06-03-2006, 22:40

This was on the evening news. Seventeen people were arrested in Toronto and surrounding areas following a two-year investigation by local, provincial, and federal law enforcement. The suspects had acquired three tonnes of ammonium nitrate, one third the amount used in the 1995 bombing of the AP Murrah Building in Oklahoma City. The suspects apparently had a list of targets, including the CSIS (Canadian Security and Intelligence Service) building and parliament buildings in Toronto.

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The video gives some details on the scope of the police operation.

**David Anderson** · 06-04-2006, 00:27

Actually I think 3 tonnes is 3 TIMES the amount used in OC...but either way, it would make a heck of a bang.

You know, sooner or later these jazzbos will realize that building great big showy bombs is a losing game, and then the Western World will be in really big trouble... {I'm using definition 2....http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jazzbo}.

Maybe I'm just bitter... I flew back from Ottawa today, and the security idiots made me dump the coffee out of my steel insulated mug and then tried to take it apart...checking to see if it was stuffed with semtex, I suppose. Y'know, if somebody shows up at boarding security with such a darned suspicious object, wouldn't it make sense to _arrest_ him?

OTOH, if 10 guys, completely unarmed but muscular and determined, all got on the same plane, precisely who would stop them from doing about anything they wanted, and how?

Maybe I should have a few belts of scotch before I fly...the whole process gets me thinking too much...

**asdf** · 06-04-2006, 00:42

I saw that story on the news this morning. That's some pretty scary stuff. I was surprised to find that their intended targets were in Canada; I would have assumed that they were trying to smuggle the ammonium nitrate into the US somehow to blow up something here.

**Gordon Nore** · 06-04-2006, 08:21

Originally Posted by David Anderson

Actually I think 3 tonnes is 3 TIMES the amount used in OKC...

You are right. I typed it wrong.

**AllanJGAnderson** · 06-04-2006, 08:28

Congrats to Canada for the biggest catch of the season. It's a darn shame you guys arn't as big of fans of the death penalty as I am.

**jwinch2** · 06-04-2006, 09:23

Glad to see you guys on the ball up there Gordon!

Check your PM box...

**rgoad** · 06-04-2006, 12:45

Thanks to boys up North for having our back.

David, I had the same run around over a pair of nail clippers some years ago. Big goat rope and display of poor security. My daughter asked me (sotto voice and much later) if they ever wondered what could be done with the plastic knives that came with the meals. Not a lot of ligic being applied.

But the real cops are doing a bang up job. Good Job!

**dao** · 06-05-2006, 09:27

Originally Posted by asdf

I saw that story on the news this morning. That's some pretty scary stuff. I was surprised to find that their intended targets were in Canada; I would have assumed that they were trying to smuggle the ammonium nitrate into the US somehow to blow up something here.

Why wouldn't they? Terrorists are targeting western targets and Canada is about western target.

I'm glad nobody got hurt.

**Eye4NEye** · 06-05-2006, 09:31

They pulled my wife out once for a pair of tweezers. I couldn't believe they thought we could hijack the plane with a pair of tweezers. Maybe if I was MacGyver...

In the end my wife was like "Those aren't dangerous." and the lady looked up at her and said "These aren't dangerous." Then my wife said "I'm not going to hurt anyone." and the woman says "You're not going to hurt anyone." We walked away and I was thinking...wow...I'm married to a Jedi!!! Hahahaha It was completely surreal.

**Musubi Dojo** · 06-05-2006, 09:33

Our increased pressence in Afganistan has definately made us a target.
A relatively soft target at that...

**asdf** · 06-05-2006, 11:15

Originally Posted by dao

Why wouldn't they? Terrorists are targeting western targets and Canada is about western target.

I'm glad nobody got hurt.

Because we (the US) are a much bigger target. C'mon, when was the last time you heard Osama rant and rave about how evil the Canadians were? I'm not saying that they would never strike Canada, I'm just saying that hatred for all things American is much more prevalent among those nutjobs.

**asdf** · 06-05-2006, 11:16

Originally Posted by Eye4NEye

They pulled my wife out once for a pair of tweezers. I couldn't believe they thought we could hijack the plane with a pair of tweezers. Maybe if I was MacGyver...

In the end my wife was like "Those aren't dangerous." and the lady looked up at her and said "These aren't dangerous." Then my wife said "I'm not going to hurt anyone." and the woman says "You're not going to hurt anyone." We walked away and I was thinking...wow...I'm married to a Jedi!!! Hahahaha It was completely surreal.

That was funny. "These aren't the droids you're looking for."

**Gordon Nore** · 06-05-2006, 12:32

Originally Posted by asdf

Because we (the US) are a much bigger target. C'mon, when was the last time you heard Osama rant and rave about how evil the Canadians were? I'm not saying that they would never strike Canada, I'm just saying that hatred for all things American is much more prevalent among those nutjobs.

I'm going respond to this cautiously, as it was not my intention to start a political thread. I thought the story was of interest because it showed a coordinated law enforcement exercise that prevented a terrorist attack, in this case, with Canadian targets. As Chris Luttrell alluded to, Canada has a lead military role in Afghanistan. I believe Canadian Forces recently took command of joint forces in Kandahar, as a matter of fact. Terrorist attacks, though not of the scale of 9/11/01, go on all over the world everday, so no one is really safe.

**Musubi Dojo** · 06-05-2006, 13:14

Originally Posted by Gordon Nore

I'm going respond to this cautiously, as it was not my intention to start a political thread. I thought the story was of interest because it showed a coordinated law enforcement exercise that prevented a terrorist attack, in this case, with Canadian targets. As Chris Luttrell alluded to, Canada has a lead military role in Afghanistan. I believe Canadian Forces recently took command of joint forces in Kandahar, as a matter of fact. Terrorist attacks, though not of the scale of 9/11/01, go on all over the world everday, so no one is really safe.

I should have added "A job well done by all the agencies involved."

Cheers
c

**asdf** · 06-05-2006, 16:55

Originally Posted by Gordon Nore

I'm going respond to this cautiously, as it was not my intention to start a political thread. I thought the story was of interest because it showed a coordinated law enforcement exercise that prevented a terrorist attack, in this case, with Canadian targets. As Chris Luttrell alluded to, Canada has a lead military role in Afghanistan. I believe Canadian Forces recently took command of joint forces in Kandahar, as a matter of fact. Terrorist attacks, though not of the scale of 9/11/01, go on all over the world everday, so no one is really safe.

Hey, I agree with you 100%, I was just expressing surprise. No one is really safe on an absolute level, but there are simply certain regions that are at more risk than others. When I first saw reports of the arrests in Canada involving such a huge amount of ammonium nitrate, my first reaction was, "damn, they must have been trying to smuggle that crap into the states to blow something up." But, as it turns out, the intended targets were in fact in Canada. And this surprised me, that's all.

I wasn't trying to imply that Canada wasn't a "worthy target" or anything... I hope no one took offense.

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