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    I might start training in the art of kajukenbo, and I was wondering if anyone here practiced it? If so please tell me a little bit about you experience. I have only come across it one time at a lua seminar.
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    To be honest, this is an art that has always interested me as well. There is a teacher in town that is supposed to be highly ranked in the art as well as Escrima but he is not teaching it right now for whatever reason.

    I have seen vids and some in person demonstration but that is as far as my experience goes. I will be interested to see what others say on the topic and what your opinions are if you try it out.
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    If I'm not mistaken, Kajukenbo is a conglomeration of different styles of martial arts, with a main emphasis on Kenpo. This thread should probably be moved over to the Kenpo/Kempo area.
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    Here's a website to help.

    http://www.kajukenbo.org/history/
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    "A conglomeration of kenpo and..." Which is itself a conglomeration of other arts?

    Wow. Do you need a degree in algebra to take it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rgoad
    "A conglomeration of kenpo and..." Which is itself a conglomeration of other arts?

    Wow. Do you need a degree in algebra to take it?
    Couldn't hurt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rgoad
    "A conglomeration of kenpo and..." Which is itself a conglomeration of other arts?

    Wow. Do you need a degree in algebra to take it?
    You can earn a degree in algebra? I never got past basic math...so Kajukenbo is probably not an art for me.
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    Some info sources:

    www.kajukenboinfo.com

    www.kajukenbocafe.com/smf

    So who teaches Kajukenbo in Oklahoma?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sooner_sadiq
    No one, I am moving.
    Where you moving to?

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    Mr. Bishop, thanks for posting th links.
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    Professor Bishop;

    I am referring Robby to Sigung Michael Whittle in Spokane, WA.

    He has already spoken with Sigung and I have also met him at a Lua seminar here with Olohe Sol, GM Muro, and others.

    Thank you for asking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DatuSadiq
    Professor Bishop;

    I am referring Robby to Sigung Michael Whittle in Spokane, WA.

    He has already spoken with Sigung and I have also met him at a Lua seminar here with Olohe Sol, GM Muro, and others.

    Thank you for asking.
    Good choice. Mike's a great guy and good instructor.

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    Salamat!

    I enjoy the Kajukenbo Cafe. I have learned a lot about the Kajukenbo system.
    I hope to meet more Kajukenbo people in the future or bring to Oklahoma someone to teach a Kajukenbo seminar.

    BTW: Your site is very good as well.

    Am I to understand that you have a book now on the system?
    I would also like to learn more about the system.

    Could you explain two things to maybe begin some dialogue?

    1. What are the Alphabets?

    2. Why were the original forms called Pinions? Are they now the Palama Sets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DatuSadiq
    Salamat!

    I enjoy the Kajukenbo Cafe. I have learned a lot about the Kajukenbo system.
    I hope to meet more Kajukenbo people in the future or bring to Oklahoma someone to teach a Kajukenbo seminar.

    BTW: Your site is very good as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DatuSadiq
    Am I to understand that you have a book now on the system?
    I would also like to learn more about the system.
    I should have it availiable before the end of the year.

    Quote Originally Posted by DatuSadiq
    Could you explain two things to maybe begin some dialogue?

    1. What are the Alphabets?

    2. Why were the original forms called Pinions? Are they now the Palama Sets?

    Salamat!
    The "alphabets" are 26 combination techniques against either a 1 or 2 man punching attack. Their predominantly done on the defenders left side, vs. the "Punch Counters" which are predominantly done on the defenders right side.

    The 14 Kajukenbo forms were originally named "Pinans", borrowing the name from the Okinawan forms. Over the years, due to mis-pronounciation by the Hawaiians and Filipino Hawaiians, they have been spelled "Pinions", "Pinnions", etc.
    In 1993, Sijo Emperado renamed the forms "Palama Sets" to show the origin of their creation, the Palama Settlement School, in Hawaii.

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    Just out of curiousity when you practice your "alphabets" is it done against the traditional lunge punch, or the more boxing oriented style of jab/cross? Since both aspects seem to be components of the kajukenbo system. Since they borrowed the name pinans from the okinawans in name are the forms the same as the okinawan versions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sooner_sadiq
    Just out of curiousity when you practice your "alphabets" is it done against the traditional lunge punch, or the more boxing oriented style of jab/cross? Since both aspects seem to be components of the kajukenbo system. Since they borrowed the name pinans from the okinawans in name are the forms the same as the okinawan versions?
    In addition to their martial arts training, 4 of the five founders also boxed as teens and young adults. Their feeling in creating Kajukenbo was to meet the self defense needs of their time. In their neighborhoods very few of the problem people had any martial arts training. More common was a street thug who had done a little boxing in the past. And many of the servicemen who would sometimes cause a problem with the locals, were also mostly equiped with western boxing skills, if they had any training at all.

    So to counter this the "punch counters", "grab arts", and "alphabets" were done against a attacker who throws the following punches to the head; "right cross", "left jab-right cross combo", and a "right cross-left hook combo".

    Some "grab arts" are done against a attacker who grabs and "hook punches", grabs and "right cross punches", and grabs you from behind, turns you and does one of the boxers punches.

    The "Pinans" are original creations of Adriano and Joe Emperado. The only one that is based on a Okinawan kata is #11. This closely resembles "Naihanchi Shodan", which was the main kata that James Mitose and William Chow taught in their kenpo schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sooner_sadiq
    I might start training in the art of kajukenbo, and I was wondering if anyone here practiced it? If so please tell me a little bit about you experience. I have only come across it one time at a lua seminar.
    I never practiced it, but a long time ago in the very early 1990's while serving at Ft Ord in California, I checked out a Kajukenbo school with my squad leader. We were going to join a school there....I think it wass this one, but I am not sure. We saw a couple classes and I really wanted to get into it, but a few things happened so I could not attend.

    Based on what I saw back then, it is a style I would at least try. Apeared to be a well rounded style.

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    Thanks Professor:

    So what percentage would you say the Original System incorporated the Mano Mano or Kuntaw?

    Is there a particular level that students begin to learn more of the Escrima (Empty Hands and Weapons)?

    I noticed in clips on Sijo's Emperado.com, that much of the entries include Gunting. Are most of the Entries drawn from FMA?

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    Default Video's of the Kajukenbo System

    Here is some links to see what Kajukenbo techniques and form are all about ! Sifu Ben Fajardo 5th degree Kajukenbo Wun Hop Kuen Do
    http://www.emperado.com/forums/showthread.php?t=417
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