any spear users here

**Lazybutstubborn** · 08-23-2006, 14:08

just curious any spear users here, I've been toying with the idea of picking up staff and spear training to see if I can get the best of both worlds, opinions?

Adam Nance- To lazy to practice a lot, to interested not to practice at all....

**sean_stonehart** · 08-23-2006, 17:10

Originally Posted by Lazybutstubborn

just curious any spear users here, I've been toying with the idea of picking up staff and spear training to see if I can get the best of both worlds, opinions?

Adam Nance- To lazy to practice a lot, to interested not to practice at all....

Been known to touch one every so often.

I'd really recommen finding a good CMA school & learn from them. The spear is consider the king of weapons for a reason.

**Jeff Burger** · 08-23-2006, 19:55

Havent pick one up for awhile.

**Jeff Burger** · 08-24-2006, 08:31

Came across this old pic (maybe 5 years ago)

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...er/Jeff-01.jpg

**coralreefer** · 08-24-2006, 11:47

Honestly, I have been fascinated with this weapon ever since i saw the movie "Hero" with Jet Li. I have to say..the choreography in that movie is amazing, especially in the scene in the beginning of the movie with Jet Li using a sword against a guy with a spear. Simply fantastic choreography.

But that kind of spear is flexible, and I cant seem to find one like it here in Korea, unless i order one online. I practice with the longest staff i can find. Even though its not as flexible, and has no point, I can try my best to use it in the same way, until a time comes when I can get my hands on a true spear.

I study Korean martial arts primarily, but I see much beauty in the Chinese Arts, and long to find a CMA teacher here in Korea.

Todd

**sean_stonehart** · 08-24-2006, 12:43

There's a lot of praying mantis is Korea. Look around.

As far as spear wood goes, look for white waxwood. The ones they use in the movies are even flimsier, but the average commercial spear is on a white waxwood shaft & moves nicely when the proper energy & technique are applied on it.

**Jeff Burger** · 08-24-2006, 12:49

I liked teaching spear first for CMA weapons, its slower and smoother.

The spear is consider the king of weapons for a reason.

Knives are very dangerous, knives on the end of a 6 ft stick are just evil.

**sean_stonehart** · 08-24-2006, 13:51

I have always learned weapons the old way...

First stick, then knife (broadsword), then sword, then spear and after that the really messy or groovy things.

**Jeff Burger** · 08-24-2006, 14:18

When Im learned they pushed you to either Northern style and straight sword and spear as weapons or Southern style witrh staff and broadsword as weapon.
In the end it was your decision.

Japanese weapons I make them learn Bo / staff first, after that they can chose.

**Lazybutstubborn** · 08-24-2006, 22:57

are there any schools that put all their focus on weaponry, if not does Win Chun(sorry if i mispelled) teach spear?, it's the Kung Fu style I like most.

**Chunkstyle** · 08-25-2006, 00:37

The spear is good stuff, it can be really nasty. It was one of the last weapons I learned. For me it went staff, cane, broadsword, butterfly swords, pudao, straight sword, then the spear. A few came after that but that is as far as I have gotten.

**sean_stonehart** · 08-25-2006, 06:52

Lazy... No & no ...

**Yang Wei Xin** · 08-25-2006, 10:29

The spear is hard as hell to learn, much more intricate than the staff, a lot more twisting and spiraling movement, especially if you want to work it correctly with the flexing of the spear on certain moves.

For our basic weapons we go:
Staff
Broadsword
Single Handed Straightsword
Spear
Double Handed Straightsword

I think spear should definitely be considered one of the more advanced weapons.

**Jeff Burger** · 08-25-2006, 13:37

Never got to play with 2 hand staight sword but always admired it.

One of the reason I liked to start them with spear is it less atheltic / ballistic / dynamic.
Im not saying its easy but the staff needs a certain amount of ferociousness.
The spear feels more like fencing.

MASTERforge · 09-26-2006, 15:19

I should be adding spear (Qiang) to my products soon on http://www.masterforge.co.uk. Its probably the best you can get. The blade is hand forged and a sanmai (3 piece) construction. The inner core is carbon steel the outer layers softer steel. This allows it to be flexible but incredibly tough.

We can also fold the outer layers of steel with harder steel (damascus folding) so its even tougher. The blades look incredibly beautiful. They are the real article. You can practice you thrusting and slicing on cutting materials without damaging the blade.

If you want to train authentic spear then a real spear is a must.

Leigh

MASTERforge · 12-11-2006, 10:37

Got the Chinese spear on the site now.

We also have Japanese Yari and Naginata.

They all come with the same blade options as the swords. For example you could have a Chinese Spear with sanmai (inserted steel) and dual row twistcore lamination on the outside.

I know its a bit excessive on a spear. But it would be one hell of a spear!