Combatives video

[AndrewSimonsen]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...77855734&hl=en
It may just be me but that wasn't the best guard pass.

[jabonn]

Remember that the video shown is for Army Combatives Level I. The course is an introduction to ground fighting. The techniques shown flow together to create seperate ground fighting three drills.

You are refering to the guard pass in Drill 1. Again it is an introduction to basic strategies in dealing with your enemy beginning from the Top Mount, Guard, Side Control and back into the Top Mount. This is Drill 1.

I encourage you to become MAC Level I certified and then come back and provide your review.

[karateguy]

there were some other cool videos at that domain.. Lots of info..

[Jeff C.]

Remember that the video shown is for Army Combatives Level I. The course is an introduction to ground fighting. The techniques shown flow together to create seperate ground fighting three drills.

You are refering to the guard pass in Drill 1. Again it is an introduction to basic strategies in dealing with your enemy beginning from the Top Mount, Guard, Side Control and back into the Top Mount. This is Drill 1.

I encourage you to become MAC Level I certified and then come back and provide your review.

Sir, I am level one certified, and although I like the video overall (you can download it from my website), it certainly falls short in a few places, in my opinion. Not seriously short - just a few ways to do certain techniques cleaner and better.

Being level-one certified is not necessary to critique the video in my opinion. Having experience in BJJ, as it is based on BJJ, is a more important perspective in my opinion. Besides, each level one course at different installations is going to have its own spin on ways to get things done, ways to execute technique. I'm pretty sure not everyone does it exactly as shown in the relatively-old video.

I think the MACP program is very good overall. I wish this level one video would be updated in a few areas.

Jeff Cook

[jabonn]

SFC Cook,

I understand that you do not have to be certified in level one to make a criticizing comment about MACP. My post intended to point out that level one was designed for a soldier that has zero martial arts experience. The guard pass shown might not be practical for use in a Judo Dojo or BJJ school against an experienced student. However, the concept demonstrated gives that soldier a base reference to begin understanding the physics and theory of ground fighting. Level 1 is much like Basic Training -it is basic and designed for the lowest common denominator.

I am not a big fan of the existing Modern Army Combatives Program. I agree with your point on 'certain techniques being cleaner and better'. The cleaner and better were supposed to come from the additional course levels and continual skills practice.

As we both know it is going through some current changes. We will see what falls out of the re-tool. The most important lesson that the Benning Instructors put out to my class "You now know enough to get your ass kicked at a bar."

[Jeff C.]

I just want to clarify sir that I am not criticizing Level 1 MACP; I am criticizing the guard pass in the Level 1 MACP video, and thus directly addressing Andrew's original post.

The guard pass shown, the way it is taught in the video, is incomplete. It leaves the Soldier passing guard unecessarily and EASILY vulnerable to armbar and choke. There is no reason I can think of to ever teach it in such a sloppy manner - whether it be for use in the dojo or on the battlefield. It also fails to address the basic principle and techniques of breaking a closed guard - which is the root of the vulnerabilities mentioned.

In short, the method shown creates bad habits. Further on in the training, when the Soldier learns the triangle strangle and cross-body armlock from the guard, the Soldier will abandon this dangerous method of closed-guard pass. So I have to ask, why teach it that way to a beginner?

Jeff Cook