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06-10-2007, 15:00 #41Member
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I would say that the text is correct, but no the animated gif.
Originally Posted by Nadine
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06-10-2007, 15:02 #42Member
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I guess either I have to visit you guys in Berlin, or you have to come to Karlstad.
So we could go over all the kihon. That would probably be quicker than doing it here on Budoseek.
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06-10-2007, 15:12 #43Account Suspended: Noncompliance with full real name rule
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That's a great idea!
Originally Posted by Anders Pettersson
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06-10-2007, 22:33 #44Junior Member
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oh. sorry for the delay in my response. I am still trying to understand Japanese, by studying. But, I need more help with Shorinji Kempo terms. Thank you.
Originally Posted by sheb
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How does one call the part of the index finger which is sometimes used to press a vital point? I only found it on the Kenseikai-Homepage were it is described as Choujide. I do not doubt that it is called like that, but under this name I couldn`t find anything else in the net (ok, that doesn`t mean anything...
). So I wonder if there probably exists another name?
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07-11-2007, 03:23 #46Member
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What you think of is probably chōji [丁字], most of the times I say it with out the te/de [手] which means hand. But it could be romanized in the way Kensikai homepage writes it.
Originally Posted by Nina
Chōjide litterally means hand in the shape of the character "chō ", which kind of looks like a "T".
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07-11-2007, 04:18 #47Newbie
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Confused about ashi sabaki ???
Gassho.
To Nadine and all those who have trouble remembering names in Japanese ;
Firstly if you still haven't, get your hands on a copy of the Tokuhon and carry it with you at all times : read it at lunchbreak, while on your way to work if you use public transport, in the waiting room at the dentist LOL ... it is an invaluable source of information and almost all of the tsuki, keri, uke types we use are listed, as well as all the body movements, foot placement names in japanese, with two easy columns for forward and backward movement, thus helping you to remember the "opposite" move of each.
Secondly, do the very useful mind training exercise to decompose the tenchikens in all their japanese components, from start till end (every body movement, every block and every strike). Once you naturally can do it without any mistake, you've made it :-)
Lastly, get in the habit, after each training session, to IMMEDIATELY write down all you have learned in kihon, Hokei, sotai practice and the syllabus techniques you worked on on the day.
Set your own methodology. If you manage to be rigorous, you will quickly build a strong database of terms, of useful techniques' tips and tricks from all the people you may be taught by here and there, and your confidence will grow.
It was hard work for me, but without speaking japanese, I now have reached a stage where every word we use makes sense and the language barrier is almost gone :-)
Here is a very good visual reference tool, taken from the south coast British Federation website (scroll down on the left hand site navigation column to "stances" or "foot movement", it is very clear and well explained : http://www.shorinji.co.uk/kenshi/kenshi.html
Enjoy your training,
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What does the word "kari" mean in kari ashi? Is a kari ashi like sokuto geri?
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08-21-2007, 12:59 #49Member
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This question seems to be hard to answer on...
Originally Posted by Nadine
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there will be nothing ...
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08-21-2007, 16:44 #50Super Moderator
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I'm sorry Nadine, but I don't know the answer. I don't have any notes at my house, they are all down in London at my Mum's.
The answer you seek will probably come from someone who has access to the word as its written in Japanese Kanji. That way they can be sure they are looking up the correct definition in the dictionary. Without the appropriate Kanji, it gets a bit silly. For example, my pocket Websters Japanese dictionary gives these four definitions for "kari";
kari wild goose
kari hunting
kari debt, loan
kari no temporary
All of which might be completely misleading nonsense. You need to know the Kanji used in the Shorinji Kempo phrase.
I'm guessing that you already knew this. But your question deserved some kind of answer...
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08-21-2007, 21:04 #51Senior Member
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Possible meaning
I don't study Shorinji Kempo, but I do study Japanese. I was playing with a dictionary, and came up with 刈足 as kanji for "kari ashi." The first character could mean "cut" or "reap." The second character means "foot" or "step."
Would this make any sense in your context?
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Yes, I think so; thank you.
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reap = harvest?
Or more the move of a reaping hook?
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Nadine, it might be best to wait for Leon to answer. Or maybe PM him...
Of course, there are others also (Anders, David Dunn, etc.)...David Noble
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Yes, there' s no hurry...
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but life is short!!!
Originally Posted by Nadine
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The kanji Rick Matz posted are correct. (Thanks for that Rick.)
Originally Posted by Nadine
Kari [刈] means "reap", as in cutting down grains when you harvest.
It is similar to "sweep", but not exactly the same.
The word kari [刈] is not related to keri.
In ShorinjiKempo we have 5 types of kara ashi [刈足]
1. 脚刀刈 kyakutō gari
2. 後踵刈 ushiro kakato gari
3. 足刀刈 sokutō gari
4. 内足刀刈 nai sokutō gari
5. 足底刈 sokutei gari
The type commonly used after chidori gaeshi is a sokutō gari [足刀刈]
I hope this helps.
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08-23-2007, 02:35 #58Member
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Sorry for replying late, was in UK for a couple of days.
Originally Posted by Luar
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Were you training?
Originally Posted by Anders Pettersson
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08-23-2007, 06:03 #60Member
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Of course.
Originally Posted by Luar
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半ばは自己の幸せを、半ばは他人の幸せを - 宗 道臣
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