Which systems have you studied.

Geordie Boy · 11-07-2002, 10:37

Hi all, just wondering. I know lets many different styles of FMA,
Which ones have you trained in.I currently do escrima, but would like to try Yaw Yan.(i understand it is similar to muay thai) Any one practiced this or any others let me know what there like

**Kimpatsu** · 04-04-2003, 02:23

Hello, Paul.
This is the first time I've ever ventured into the FMA section, because as a Shorinji Kempo practitioner, I've had no reason, but the name Kuntao caught my eye. My father studied it for a couple of years in Singapore.
Best,

Dave Fulton · 04-04-2003, 06:51

For the last few years I have trained in:

Arnis (from Pekiti-tirsia)
Pentjak Silat (from Eddie Jafri)

Other systems that I have spent an appreciable amount of time in:

Hakko-ryu Jujitsu
Okinawan Shorin-ryu Karate
Okinawan Goju-ryu Karate
Xingyiquan

Systems that I have dabbled in:

Tae Kwon Do (where it all started for me)
Jeet Kune Do

Respectfully,

Dave Fulton

**Jeff Burger** · 04-04-2003, 07:11

I have done some FMA arts.

I traded lessons for Kali lessons in the beginning and then joined a school for about a year.
But after a few years of swapping privates group classes at that location just didnt seem top cut it.

Did some Escrima and to be honest I couldnt see a difference in it from Kali.

I also did some Manda Munde Silat and some Pentjak Silat.

Other than that just seminars or few lessons here and there with some interesting people.
Remy Presas Seminars will be greatly missed.

I dated a Fillipino girl for some years and her dad is in the special police in Phillipines.
A heavy man and a heavy smoker who likes his drink but man can this guy use a knife.

I personally like the gunting tactics (destructive blocking).

Jeff

**Jeff Burger** · 04-04-2003, 07:14

Welcome to Budoseek Dave Fulton

Would like to hear more about your experience in Hakko Ryu Jujitsu...email me.

Jeff

**DatuSadiq** · 04-04-2003, 17:06

I have had the honor of training in various methods of FMA. These include:

Vee Arnis (Prof. Vee System)
Aneh Palu Kali Silat (Guro Hassan Ali)

Today I am proud to represent:
Espiritu Mandirigma Kuntaw Arnis
Pambuan Family Martial Arts

As taught by Maestro Guro John Bain under the direct guidance of Ama Guro Raffy Pambuan, 5th Generation Inheritor of his family martial arts.

Mabuhay!

Kapatid Darrell Sarjeant

**Airyu** · 04-21-2003, 05:11

Hello Everyone,

I have been practicing for some time now and have played in a few of the many FMA's out there. All are fun!

Modern Arnis
Pekiti Tirsia Kali
Doce Pares
Dekiti Tirsia Siradas
AMOK!
Atienza Kali
Inosanto/Lacoste method
Dog Brothers blend
Currently I am focusing on Sayoc Kali.

Gumagalang
Guro Steve L.

www.Bujinkandojo.net
www.Sayoc.com

**Kimpatsu** · 04-21-2003, 07:18

Yeah, Steve, but are you any good at any of them?

**Airyu** · 04-21-2003, 08:36

Hello Tony,

To answer your question, yes I am proficient in several of these arts. (but truely I am only and always a student, as there is always more to learn or improve upon)

I think you will have to understand I have been practicing the various FMA for about 20 years. So, I have the grateful opportunity to meet and train with many great teachers. I also have been training in the martial arts for 28 years total now.

During the last 17 years or so, I have also engaged in many contact matches, some with the WEKAF gear, many with just some light gear, and a fencing mask on. I have also had several opportunities to go at it, with no pads. Now of course this is just a drill or sparring, and can lead to a dueling mentality if it is the only way you train, but it is a necessary tool to help develop particular attributes.

Currently( as I stated earlier) I am concentrating my efforts in Sayoc Kali, which I find to be very different in both it's teaching methodology as well as the tactics it employs.

Gumagalang

Guro Steve L.

www.Bujinkandojo.net
www.Sayoc.com

**Kimpatsu** · 04-21-2003, 09:21

How long have you trained in a single art?
And for how many hours a week?

**Airyu** · 04-21-2003, 10:20

Hello Again Tony,

I hope you are well.

My current normal training week includes training 6 days a week. It includes teaching three classes per week 1 1/2 hrs each(not including seminars, or private Instruction), general physical conditioning weightlifting, cardiovascular work, stretching 5 days/ week for 1 - 1 1/2 hrs each session, specific martial arts training 3 - 4 times/week(my own training) 1 hr each session. This is usually the minimum of actually training time.

Most of this information comes from various training journals and logs that I have going back to around ~1980, or so. [this is just the training time in these arts]

For Dekiti Tirsia Siradas (Grand Master Nene Tortal)10hrs, + 15 hr solo training, some practice outside of this but only recently have hooked back with this again.

Inosanto/Lacosta method 10 hrs, + many, many hrs of practice

AMOK! > 200+hrs

Sayoc Kali(based on Sayoc Instructors training log) ~360 - 400hrs

Doce Pares Several friends in that art and I use to spar and play around together, my best guess would be 15 - 20 hrs.

Modern Arnis - ? can't locate this training log! but probably 40hrs actually class time in college + many solo training hours

Atienza Kali - Just recently started training with these fantastic Kali men, 5 hrs + solo time

Pekiti Tirsia Kali- (Grand Tuhon Gaje's method) ~ 130 +hrs

This is just an estimate of some of the training, I have been fortunate to have had. I don't have the number of hours I have sparred, or just met, called, and researched with various FMA players and arts as well. I have also trained in various empty hand arts as well. Karate, Boxing, Judo, Budo Taijutsu, Wrestling, Tae Kwon Do, Art of Combat, Kickboxing etc. etc. but I am not including this training time as well.

I have been called a "martial arts junkie", I love the practice of the arts, History, Philosophy and ethnographic and socialogical conditions that gave rise to the various arts. I am always researching, reading, reviewing a new video, or getting involved first hand in various arts. (and trying to keep up on the various martial arts boards on the internet.)

Gumagalang
Guro Steve L.

www.Bujinkandojo.net
www.Sayoc.com

**kampilan** · 04-22-2003, 23:58

hi there

i have practiced the FMA for 17 years i train in my uncles lyablelyesa and buntot pagi system (hilot as well) with areas of oracion and kulam. also i am training in moromoro orabes heneral under GM Abrian and Black eagle Arnis Eskrima under GM Navarro i train with him 5days a week.....Also i train in muay thai with a friend of mine the assistant trainer of 2001 K1 champ mark hunt and also i train in submission wrestling

thanks

terry

shortstick · 05-02-2003, 11:17

Hello, I know this post is dated now, but I was out for a bit.
Anyway, I have trained for the last 8 years in Sarrada Eskrima.
I was exposed to Eskrima at 1st as a teenager while training in Kempo, and loved it ever since. A man named Eddy Rodriges from the PI would drop into our class now and then. He was a little guy but a real stud. When I met him he was working as a guard at a state prison near where i lived. He had some stories, and a few scars. It turned out he served in Viet Nam with my instructor's instructor(sigung?) Anyway he was a great guy, that was about 20 years ago, I wish I knew where he was now.

**Dan Anderson** · 05-23-2003, 13:33

I have trained in:
Kongsu (Korean Karate) with Loren Christensen
Wu Ying Mun (American karate witha Chinese name) with Bruce Terrill
Modern Arnis with Remy Presas

I am currently training with Manong Ted Buot in Balintawak escrima.

I teach American Freestyle Karate and Modern Arnis 80, both are systems of my own.

Yours,
Dan Anderson

**Brian Johns** · 06-28-2003, 21:24

Hello,

I have trained in the following:

Kwan Ying Do Gung Fu (inactive)
Vee Jiu Jitsu
Chung Do Kwan TKD
Kenpo Karate (inactive)
Modern Arnis

I've also dabbled in Brazilian JJ, aikido and was really just starting to get into Pencak Silat Mande Muda. Unfortunately, Pa Herman Suwanda and his wife passed away in a tragic accident. I've also attended various pressure point seminars.

My focus in the martial arts these days is overwhelmingly Modern Arnis as taught by GM Remy Presas in the last few years of his life. I also still teach the VJJ/TKD on the side.

Take care.

**DatuSadiq** · 06-29-2003, 10:14

Glad to see you are keeping Vee Jitsu alive.

Darrell Sarjeant

**Brian Johns** · 07-03-2003, 22:13

Originally posted by ProfSarjeant
Glad to see you are keeping Vee Jitsu alive.

Darrell Sarjeant

I would like to keep both Vee Jitsu and Modern Arnis alive out of respect to Professor Vee and Professor Remy A. Presas, two great martial artists.

Take care.

**DatuSadiq** · 07-04-2003, 04:31

There will always be a link there anyway as Prof. Vee also learned aspects of Modern Arnis from Prof. Presas.

Darrell Sarjeant

**yamatodamashii** · 10-04-2003, 03:50

I started with three years of Shotokan Karate and Cheng-style taijiquan in college, then did Hwarang-do for four years. I studied Shobayashi Shorin ryu karatejutsu/kobujutsu and koei ryu jujutsu for three years on Okinawa (sporadically, as my military schedule permitted).
I did a year of Bujinkan budo taijutsu on Okinawa, as well, and that was the style that I continued for two years after my active duty contract.
As there is no BBT instructor where I live, however, I was looking for another school the whole time, and finally fell in with a Dekiti-Tirsia school about six months ago. I am currently attending a weekend seminar with Master Guru Greg Allend.

I do aikido classes and get exposure to other styles when I can (my best friend is a tkd and fencing instructor), but that's my major curriculum vitae.

**chenstyle44** · 01-27-2004, 12:07

Hi,
Im currently studying Rutano Estokada and Haribon Dumog.

Punong Guro Dan Rutano has incorporated the weapons movements to have them used in practically every range of fighting. It is a very simple system but there is tons of variation once you get the basics down.

Before this I was into Togakure ryu Ninpo Taijutsu. Also a very good art for self discovery and creative expression.
I wanted to get into the Filipino arts because I appreciated the complexity of the stick work and the knife stuff was great.
Espada y Daga rocks!!!
I had my first exposure to the stuff via Kelly Worden at a couple of his seminars.
I found out about Guro Dan through a guy I used to train with in Ninjutsu.
You can check out Guro Dan's website by searching on Google for Rutano Estokada.
More info there than I can share here.
Gord Walker