What is your favourite counter to a roundhouse and/or a superman punch?

**Blade** · 02-02-2009, 20:43

My experience is that those two punches are less predictable than your regular munetsuki and/or a gyaku tsuki.

My typical counter for the roundhouse punch is shiho nage and/or kokyu nage, but O goshi and/or Ipon Seoi Nage should work well.

For the superman punch, I like to spin 180º and throw them in the direction of their momentum.....as they go airborne.....

Any comments ?

**Jonathan Randall** · 02-03-2009, 00:29

O goshi for the roundhouse.

**Prince Loeffler** · 02-03-2009, 09:56

When in doubt ! Kizami Geri !

**Erik** · 02-03-2009, 11:43

Duck.

But seriously, get inside, ideally trap that throwing arm with an overhook, take him down with any variation of a head-and-arm-type takedown that I can manage (though I've had success with trips).

**Nick L.** · 02-03-2009, 13:51

Elbows and lots of em' followed by

, for the roundhouse.

For the superman punch, cryptonite of course.

**Blade** · 02-03-2009, 17:50

You are right! O oshi will blend well with the roundhouse punch.

On the other hand, a well executed kick can stop the attacker cold.

I don't know about ducking....but getting inside of the roundhouse punch is wise. Maybe even throw some elbows while you are inside.

I take it that Kryptonite is to kick the groin.

**David Craik** · 02-03-2009, 18:10

Intercept and punch them in the eye-socket.

**Blade** · 02-03-2009, 18:49

Originally Posted by David Craik

Intercept and punch them in the eye-socket.

How about intercepting the superman punch with a flying knee to the head?

**David Craik** · 02-03-2009, 18:51

Naa, too fancy. Intercepting with a flying 220 grn SJHP to the head has promise though.

**Nick L.** · 02-03-2009, 22:24

I like elbows when stepping inside a punch (roundhouse) but a straight superman punch, I would probably step outside and throw my own roundhouse and then break something or dump them on their head. Mr. Craik has the best solution, although I would prefer a flying .45 via a 1911 quick whipout.

**Blade** · 02-04-2009, 07:41

Originally Posted by Nick L.

I like elbows when stepping inside a punch (roundhouse) but a straight superman punch, I would probably step outside and throw my own roundhouse and then break something or dump them on their head. Mr. Craik has the best solution, although I would prefer a flying .45 via a 1911 quick whipout.

I had one of those at one time (Ithaca NY make) it was parkerized green. The problem with those things, was that if you were fighting in close quarters the enemy just had to push the thing under the barrel and jam the darn thing. But overall they were at least good for pistol whippings

**Gunyo Kogusoku** · 02-04-2009, 08:16

A cut glass ashtray or a bar stool. Then go in with the boot.

**Webmaster** · 02-04-2009, 09:03

Originally Posted by Blade

I had one of those at one time (Ithaca NY make) it was parkerized green. The problem with those things, was that if you were fighting in close quarters the enemy just had to push the thing under the barrel and jam the darn thing. But overall they were at least good for pistol whippings

The gun will still discharge when you do that and it only take's one round at that close of range. Even if you blow a hole through his hand, you'll have plenty of distraction time to clear the malfunction and fire a second time if needed.

**jwinch2** · 02-04-2009, 09:29

In Modern Arnis and JKD both there seems to be an emphasis on trapping and countering for any sort of straight on punch. I like that idea as that allows me to make the decision whether or not I want to crash in or move off-line. I haven't practiced that against the superman punch directly, but now that we having this conversation, I am going to try it tomorrow night and see what presents itself. For the roundhouse, more than likely I would step inside his arc and fend with whatever hand was on the side was being punched and crash in with a hammer fist to the face, elbow, or a rising heel to the chin and then move to elbows and knees from there. It really all depends on the situation and what presents itself. As for the rest, Dave's idea has merit though his statement was obviously in jest.

**Wasabi Rocks** · 02-04-2009, 09:45

step inside the swing, and keep the circle (and momentum) going from your opponent. good hip throw, or ippon will work for the round house punch. for the 'superman punch' I recommend just stepping back out of reach, and when he fumbles, a good knee to the head will work...there are just too many options.

I do like the glass ashtray, and bar-stool attack combo though!

**Nick L.** · 02-04-2009, 10:14

I don't know if the superman punch would be effective against anyone who is not trying to stand and throw punches with you. In other words, if you are fighting a stylist that has a lot of lateral movement and blending technique, it would be stupid to attempt such a thing. Like Dave said, step back or sideways and then knock the crapola out of them. They should be off balance anyway since they have to do that fancy little one leg hop. But I know you are studying Aikido now and they probably don't like any of that brutal atemi stuff.

**Blade** · 02-04-2009, 11:04

Originally Posted by Nick L.

I don't know if the superman punch would be effective against anyone who is not trying to stand and throw punches with you. In other words, if you are fighting a stylist that has a lot of lateral movement and blending technique, it would be stupid to attempt such a thing. Like Dave said, step back or sideways and then knock the crapola out of them. They should be off balance anyway since they have to do that fancy little one leg hop. But I know you are studying Aikido now and they probably don't like any of that brutal atemi stuff.

Maybe, I am not a purist aikidoka when I ponder about my reaction to these attacks. This is because I have had some training in shito-ryu and jujutsu, and some unforgettable experiences in bare knukle brawling during my high school and college days.

**Blade** · 02-04-2009, 11:54

Originally Posted by Nick L.

I don't know if the superman punch would be effective against anyone who is not trying to stand and throw punches with you. In other words, if you are fighting a stylist that has a lot of lateral movement and blending technique, it would be stupid to attempt such a thing. Like Dave said, step back or sideways and then knock the crapola out of them. They should be off balance anyway since they have to do that fancy little one leg hop.

Maybe the person that attacked me with a 'superman punch' was not stupid, because there was no room to move out to the rear or laterally. Likewise, I was once attacked with a shoot and there was no room to move laterally. So you need to have other options in your arsenal.

**Erik** · 02-04-2009, 12:19

Ricardo, if you're stuck and cannot maneuver much, you can try to "slip" it (if that makes any sense) and duck under. Maybe he hits the wall behind you.

I've ducked under these punches a few times and taken the guy down with very bad suplexes, resulting in breaking his punching arm upon impact with the ground. That snap was a disgusting sound but that duckunder worked for me. I still have my teeth.

**Nick L.** · 02-04-2009, 12:49

Originally Posted by Blade

Maybe the person that attacked me with a 'superman punch' was not stupid, because there was no room to move out to the rear or laterally. Likewise, I was once attacked with a shoot and there was no room to move laterally. So you need to have other options in your arsenal.

Grab, twist, pull, pop, break, punch, kick, knee. There are so many options. But OK, back to the wall. You have no choice but to block or move inside.

Now lets say a train is traveling at 95 mph and GSP is intent on kicking your butt at 115+ mph, you only have one cart you can run to and it is filled with goats, what do you do?