My Martial Arts training and Arthritis concerns. Help please.
I'm new to this site so I hope I'm in the right thread for this. If I'm not please be polite when remarking my stupidity.
The post will be kinda long so I'll try to make as clean as I possibly can.
I've always had a thing for training. I'm not much of a gym maniac, in fact I've almost never went to a gym. However I do like to make some home training, its not intensive at all yet I like doing it and also like reading about articles on the subject and so on.
Recently tough, I've become hooked with Martial Art special training for Shaolin Gong Fu. This is where the very purpose of this thread will be revealed.
There is a technique called "Technique of Rubbing and Trust" or "Mo Cha Shu". The purpose of the training is gaining a strong Knife Hand on the "stabbing" part of it. Strengthening the fingertips and the hand as a whole.
The method of training is as follows.
You make a box, it says it should be of wood but I made it from carton as it makes no difference. Then you fill it with soybeans (since you wont eat them you should buy the cheapest kind you can find), and fill it. It says that the box should be 50cmX50cm and 30cm of height. Frankly 50cm sounded ridiculous so I made it considerably smaller as you only use a small part of it on your trusting motions. And if the box is big you'll need even more soybeans, and they are not free, nor you should you waste food that could have been saved.
Then you trust, just like if you were trusting and opponents body with your knife hand or Shuto Uke I think is the Karate name for it. And you keep going at it. Both hands move in turn, one raises and one lowers. You have to keep training daily twice a day until you feel comfortable doing it for around 40 minutes (Lit:"Until an aromatic candle burns" but it doesn't specifies the length).
After that you should replace the soybeans with rice grains, and later with sand.
Tops it will come around 10 dollars to get it. I got the box free at I supermarket, just asked the an employee to gice me one of those 12 milk pack cartons boxes and he did. Then you'll need the amount of soy to fill the box almost full. I cut my box and added a lot of duct tape and use the leftovers to make it square. It felt nice.
The training itself its a killer. Personally I trust as fast as I can and with as much power as I can, yet its hard to penetrate with your hand after the fingers have gone in to the point of knuckles.
The skin above my nails peeled of a little in almost all my fingers and you fingertips hurt like if you were learning to play the guitar, even more.
I started at 2 minutes and roughly do about 400 trusts in that time (200 per hand).
The training said after waking up (check) and before going to bed (hell no). But I think its better to wait more to let the body heal better.
Now on to the very purpose of the post.
I want to be a surgeon. Has always been my goal. Yet this training brings up serious concerns.
Will this type of training of hand strengthening and fingers strengthening may lead to fine skills impairment or arthritis? You probably know that a surgeon without fine motor skills is no surgeon at all.
I have my own theories on the subject, I'm no physician, but I have some knowledge about bones and muscles and how the work.
However I'm afraid that maybe I have written far too much already. I appreciate beforehand any insight you may give on the subject from the bottom of my swollen fingers (heart*).
Before I write anything else... are you being taught this by a person or did you come across this somewhere & started trying it.
Last edited by TonyU; 02-27-2012 at 18:45.
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I am not a CMA practitioner but I will give you my opinion. If you seriously are pursuing a career as a surgeon, Stop this now.
Only a Cowardly Loser hurts an innocent, defenseless person.
Dennis P. McGeehan
Those were my thoughts, exactly. The post came across as self training.
Originally Posted by sean_stonehart
"I don't lift, too heavy. I don't run, too far. I just hit people.
"The teacher is more important than the style."- Higa Yuchoku
Hand training requires direct supervision as you can harm yourself with self training.
There are medicines involved.
This sounds like a 72 Art of Shaolin lameass gung.
The book is fiction.
Dale Dugas, MAOM, Dipl. OM, Lic. Ac.
Licensed Acupuncturist/Chinese Herbalist
Dale Dugas Acupuncture and Herbal Medicine
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