Tae Kwon Do or Taekwondo?

[gmtkd]

I move that every instructor who teaches "traditional" tkd as it was taught years ago spells it Tae Kwon Do and every instructor who follows the Kukkiwon and WTF teaching the "modern" version spells it Taekwondo and we let them become two distinct sports/arts/fitness activities.

Anyone second the motion?

[coralreefer]

Personally, I would be happy if all, regardless of traditional or modern, could at least pronounce it correctly.

After being in Korea all these years and becoming well versed in Korean Language, it pains my ears to hear people say "Tie Kwon Do"...

[Jonathan Randall]

Personally, I would be happy if all, regardless of traditional or modern, could at least pronounce it correctly.

After being in Korea all these years and becoming well versed in Korean Language, it pains my ears to hear people say "Tie Kwon Do"...

Why?

Do you have a need to feel superior, or something? I bet you used the Westernized pronunciation for years before becoming a Korean expert...

[Tripitaka of AA]

Well, I for one, would like to be corrected. What is the correct pronunciation supposed to sound like? Do you have a YouTube clip or something that I could hear. I do like to be informed, even if the knowlege has little obvious value, it makes me feel better to know stuff. Yes, I certainly do have a need to feel superior, for in truth, there is very little about me that allows me that pleasant feeling... so I'll take every chance I can get, no matter how obscure. For example, I recently learned that Queen Elizabeth II did not appear on banknotes until 1960... now half my town knows it as I keep going around telling everyone

[Eliz]

....Yes, I certainly do have a need to feel superior, for in truth, there is very little about me that allows me that pleasant feeling... so I'll take every chance I can get, no matter how obscure....

David, I am laughing out loud. Too funny!!!!!!!!

To the OP, the correct labels are already in place:
Traditional/non-competitive
Traditional/competitive
Creative
Extreme

It baffles me as to why one would feel further catagorizing is necessary

Joathan, I hear you but I really did not take Robert's comment as snobbish. I hear the "koraty" guys and gals complain about the exact same thing.

Personally speaking, it bothers me more to hear students refer to "Tie Kwon Do" as "Koraty." Just sayin' ....

[coralreefer]

Why?

Do you have a need to feel superior, or something? I bet you used the Westernized pronunciation for years before becoming a Korean expert...

Has nothing to do with feeling superior...geez. If an instructor would like to see a student perform a technique correctly, do they do so because they want to feel superior, or because that is how it is supposed to be done?

And you are in fact correct, I also pronounced it incorrectly before being able to read Korean..the same way I did techniques incorrectly before being taught the proper way. Does this mean I cannot help others to say it properly because I used to make the same mistake? Get real~

ToAA - The Korean vowel for the "ae" of Tae (cant write Korean here for some reason) produces a hard "A" sound..like "say", or ray". In the Korean language, there is no "ie" sound at all produced by a single vowel.

[gmtkd]

Since my original intent has already been hijacked, let me menton that, in my small understanding of Korean Language "dobak" with an "a" like Bach means "gambling" and "dobok" with an "o" like joke means the clothes one wears to do taekwondo.

[coralreefer]

Since my original intent has already been hijacked, let me menton that, in my small understanding of Korean Language "dobak" with an "a" like Bach means "gambling" and "dobok" with an "o" like joke means the clothes one wears to do taekwondo.

True. I learned this by making the mistake and correction as well. To Hades with those folks with knowledge I didn't have correcting me and my incorrect ways....superiority complexes suck~

[Tripitaka of AA]

With the thread drifting as it does, this seems like a perfect opportunity to bring back an old favourite;

Students of Japanese striking arts will be familiar with jun-geri and gyaku-geri and mawashi-geri as types of kick, but must never use the term "geri" thinking it means "kick"... for in Japanese "Geri" means "Diarrhoea"! Careful students will note that the word for kick is "Keri" - the first syllable changes from a ke to a ge when used as part of compound words.

I know many readers here will already know this, but it makes me chuckle every time. Almost as easily as that common typo; "Marital arts"

[gmtkd]

I heard once that if you mispronounce the korean for "You're Welcome" (chimeneo, I believe) you can easily end up saying "please flash me."

[Jonathan Randall]

I heard once that if you mispronounce the korean for "You're Welcome" (chimeneo, I believe) you can easily end up saying "please flash me."

I don't know, lol, but I wouldn't be surprised...

By the way, I went onto your web page and am very impressed. I think you will be a great asset to this forum.

[gmtkd]

Thank you Jonathan Randall.

I really enjoy being a member of budoseek and talking about my martial arts and self-defense ideas with people who care enough to either agree or disagree instead of saying "Huh . . . that's interesting."

I always thought I wasn't concerned with rank; but, now I'm starting to wonder at what point I become a "member" instead of a "junior member" though. I should probably check the FAQ.