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07-21-2012, 01:29 #21Corripe Cervisiam
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This seems to work, it's similar to what I have been doing to follow into a "hammer lock":
The Gator Roll:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGy8fIapTbkRuss Ebert
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07-21-2012, 01:33 #22Corripe Cervisiam
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Had to throw this in, it came up on YouTube previews:
http://youtu.be/_JHu4x2y4EU
...and I liked it!Russ Ebert
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07-28-2012, 23:33 #23Junior Member
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07-29-2012, 01:49 #24Junior Member
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Input? I'm not a gi grappler (anymore), but here's my two cents: 1.) This is definitely one of those techniques that it's easier to read and prevent than it is to escape. So, I'd suggest grabbing the attackers arm with both hands (if that's legal in judo groundwork) as soon as grabs your opposite collar and getting your head up. Lots of things you can do from there. 2.) The guy getting choked starts off holding his lapels in the turtle position to prevent being choked. But he gives it up too easily as he gets driven backwards and tries to stop it by putting his hands on the attackers hips. Maybe it would be better to focus on fighting for that grip on the collar instead. Chokes can often be fought off by making it really difficult for the other guy to get and keep a grip.
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08-08-2012, 01:09 #25Corripe Cervisiam
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This is a good point. It's seems to be a consensus, people tell me this but do I listen? (Hell no).
Maybe I truly need to focus on the chin down and working the grip when I get wrung with it, or just keep his grip from "hooking in". I am going to play with this some more and see if it makes sense this time. Often I try to think of getting myself in a position to just wait, but it seems like wasted effort when it seems I can take a bad situation and make it good. At least, that is my idea....perhaps not the most realistic.Russ Ebert
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08-08-2012, 08:38 #26Senior Member
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The technique you showed that you have a love hate relationship uke is in a turtle position.
Maybe work on developing a more active turtle defense. I don't know if you are familiar with Eduardo Telles but his bottom game from the turtle is very interesting and full of venom.
I don't know in this modern information age how well known his work is in Japan. You might find something there that really helps. But you are going to have to drills reps and in a dojo situation that sort of exposes your cards if that is where you are getting choked out. But for shiai situation it may prove to be a very useful toolkit.
There are a few samples on YouTube.
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08-08-2012, 08:48 #27Senior Member
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Just do a search on Telles Turtle.
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08-08-2012, 09:53 #28Corripe Cervisiam
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This is good stuff. I'm not getting choked per se, I'm good at preventing that (most of the time). It's the escape into a viable attack position I'm looking for, from escaping the front chancery; something other than the time game (waiting for the break, which although part of the rules it feels like cheating) or going through the looped arm, to escape.
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08-08-2012, 10:42 #29Junior Member
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I don't have enough posts yet to be able to post links. But if you go on you tube and search for "Front Headlock and Counter" (with quotes) the first video will have a standard front headlock escape (at about the 1:00 minute mark). If you modify it a little for gi grappling (and don't let the other guy steamroll you on to your back), that counter might help.



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