Does anyone know what kyu means?

sharonhawker · 03-01-2003, 11:59

Hi
Can anyone tell me what the word kyu means literally?
Thanks
Sharon

**williamson** · 03-02-2003, 19:16

urgent, sudden, steep

globe, sphere, ball

class, grade, rank, school class, grade

rest, taking a day off, being finished, being absent, retire, sleep

wage, gift

nine

gather

nine (used in legal documents)

persistent disease

courting

courtship display

past misdeeds, old crimes

(pitcher's) stuff

worn-out clothes

peace; tranquility

(baseball) powerful delivery

absorption; suction; aspiration; attraction

sucking in

ancient poems; ancient songs

baseball all-star game [G][GI][S]

courtship

eternity

old relationship; old acquaintance

old grudge

relief; rescue; reinforcement

suspending performance

rescue operation

reinforcements; relief column

relief pitcher; fireman

sharonhawker · 03-03-2003, 11:24

Thanks Donny, most helpful
Sharon

**williamson** · 03-03-2003, 12:17

No problem. Actually there was more, but I got tired of cutting and pasting.

**Crusader Rabbit** · 03-03-2003, 14:19

I believe the term as used in mudansha rankings means "level" or "grade." For example, sankyu would translate as 3rd level or 3rd grade.

**Kimpatsu** · 03-08-2004, 05:10

Originally Posted by Crusader Rabbit

I believe the term as used in mudansha rankings means "level" or "grade." For example, sankyu would translate as 3rd level or 3rd grade.

Actually, "sankyu" means "arigato".

**2fisted** · 03-25-2004, 22:38

Usually when I say 'sankyu', it's because I'm appreciative of the 4th beer someone just handed me.

**Andrew Green** · 04-28-2004, 22:38

Originally Posted by Chris McLean

Kyu means boy the ranks of kyu are a process that leads to maturity and Dan means Man. So the students are supposed to grow into adulthood Mentaly physicaly and spiritualy.

Not according to my dictionary.

Can you point me to a reference that states this, outside of western martial arts student handbooks?

The danger in using a foreign language is that many people will mistranslate, mispronounce and mis-everything else.

Kyu - Generally translated as Grade/level/step

Dan comes from stair or step.

There aren't really direct translations, they are Japanese words used in a Japanese structure.

**Crusader Rabbit** · 04-28-2004, 23:10

Thank you, Ninja Penguin.

I am always surprised when someone posts their misinterpretation as if it were fact. This one sounds like what some misguided instructor told his students and they accepted it without question. "Kyu" definitely means grade, level, or step. There is no way that "kyu" in Japanese could possibly be interpreted as "boy" or "dan" as "man."

Even the analogy doesn't fit. Kyu levels are generally grouped or classified as "mudansha," literally meaning "no rank." Dan ranks are grouped or classified as "yudansha," literally meaning "ranked." These have nothing to do with childhood, adulthood, or maturity levels.

**Sgathak** · 04-29-2004, 20:03

Mr McLean, rather than yourself becoming exceptionally defensive, maybe you could provide some proof of your claims? Maybe provide something in the way of background about yourself? SOME reason to think you have something of value to listen too? Especially in light of the fact that your claims have no linguistic or cultural connection that I, or the people who followed this thread are aware of.

Surely you dont expect us to fall all over ourselvs when we have no idea of who you are, provide information of a questionable nature in your FIRST post, and use your SECOND post to rant infantily about the immaturity of this board.

So, lets start from the beginning - Who are you and why do you feel that the information you posted is correct?

**Sgathak** · 04-29-2004, 20:13

Thank you for neither answering my question nor providing any information of value.

**Jeff Burger** · 04-29-2004, 20:34

Chris.....
Kind of a nasty little post there.

"Guess it takes an American Ego to think that they know better than their Sensei."
Are you our sensei now?

"I have heard about the level of disrespect in these forums but did know I would get it on my first post."

You are the one being disrespectful.
If IT continues YOU will not.

"I come from a blue blood line and know where of I speak. Wether you hear it or even care what I think doesn't matter to me. Your loss, I am not the boy or even a beginner BB. Cheers to all you tough guys"

Quite arrogant which fits another quote from you......
"This is a sign of imaturity."

Jeff

**Crusader Rabbit** · 04-29-2004, 20:58

I just received this short e-mail from Mr. McLean:

Don
I dont appreciate your inappropriate comment about me on the message board. I have more than one Dan rank under more than a couple of signifacant figures in the martial arts. I have been a student for more than a couple of days. If you disagree fine we can agree to disagree but disrespecting me publicaly is not proper yudansha behavior.
Chris McLean

Here's my response:

Hi Chris,

I don't think my comments were inappropriate. No disrespect was intended, just a statement of opinion about those who claim to know when they really don't know. Your "dan ranks" don't impress me, either, especially since you can't seem to name the style or the instructor or even have the basic ability to define the terms for either "dan" or "kyu." Of course, that doesn't stop you from stating your misinterpretations as if they were fact. Stop being so full of yourself and admit what you don't know and when you don't know something before trying to impress others with what you think you do know. You know?

Don

I meant no disrespect by my comment, only that it is frustrating when someone who doesn't take the time to check their facts, look up the information, or read a reference book, just posts misinformation as if it were gospel. I think Chris could stand to be a little more open and questioning instead of defensive and judgmental.

**Robv82** · 04-29-2004, 21:04

Originally Posted by Chris McLean

Question

How to find out about someone on the internet.

Answer
google search

If you try the google search, and this is the Christopher McLean from Austrailia, it is not much more enlighting than the post. And from the tone of these posts, he should probably have tried meditating a little harder for the last forty years or so.

**Cliff Hargrave** · 04-29-2004, 21:52

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**Crusader Rabbit** · 04-29-2004, 22:09

Okay, this is getting really funny. Check out the latest e-mail from Chris:

So easy to raddle off your taunt through this media

I am a 6'4" 305 pound fifth dan Karate-ka, 3rd dan Jujutsu, 4th dan Tai Kwon Do, 1st dan Zendokai, 1st Dan Chun Kuk Do I was doing mixed martial arts before most people knew the differance between Japan And Korea. I have been a Body gaurd for 23 years and head of security in more than one Super Night Club. I have been in more real **** than you can imnagine against Guns knifes Cars crow bars bats and multiple opponents. I am the real deal top 10% of the martial arts I have Worked for Chuck Norris for the past eight years been on Walker as a bad guy and worked as his body gaurd for him when Howard Jackson was ill. What the **** have you done with your carrer, that can posibly top that. You are probably a small historian who has never been in a fight in your life.

If your ever in Houston My Dojo is at Northbrook High School.

If you show up I will let you sparr to submission from standing all 12 of my Yudansha while the 130 Kyu Ranks watch. If you beet them then we can play some rain deer games

Chris McLean

And now for my response:

Wow, now you resort to threats. Well, for your information, I am 6-foot tall, 230 (240?) pounds, and a former international judo competitor with real life tournament awards and medals. I am a combat veteran, having served as a U.S. Navy Hospital Corpsman attached the Marines. I have the medals to show for it, too. Afterwards, I lived and worked in Japan on-and-off for about 11 years where I trained and did randori with most of the current All-Japan Judo champions on a regular basis. I've probably done more and seen more killing and ass-kickings in a week than you have during your entire life.

Obviously, you like to open your mouth and talk trash when you really know nothing. Any time you feel like you really want the public humiliation, I will toss you around on the mat like a rag doll. If you insist, I will be happy to do it in front of your dumbass students as well. By the way, I teach judo in the western suburbs of Chicago. Come up and play sometime. I'll be happy to give you the first real martial arts lesson.

Sincerely,

Don