Shin conditioning

**ninjandrew** · 08-26-2003, 15:55

Can some1 pls tell me how muay thai practitioners condiotion their shins to be so rough??
How insane can a muay thai kick get??

**Jeff Burger** · 08-26-2003, 16:05

Scroll down in Muay Thai a bit...there is already a thread on this topic.

Jeff

**ninjandrew** · 08-27-2003, 10:09

But what about conditioning? Not so much form as "breaking in the legs". If some muay thai guy kicked me in the shin right now, I bet it would hurt like a son of a *****.

I heard some people could work their way up to kicking trees. And that some could even kick through small ones. As unlikely as that sounds. The "boulder kicking" idea comes to mind, similar to Darksons monk story, buuuut no.

**De_Franza** · 08-27-2003, 13:27

Use a method I learned from Hank, Barry's half-wit brother.
first, be sure you can hold a horse stance for at least 4 hours without any breaks. then get in horse stance in a vat of hot water (a kiddle pool works well) and bang your shins with a hammer or bat. about 50 strokes on each shin. be sure to break the skin and suffer as much as possible. then rub in a linament of ginger root, oregano, orange rinds and crack. put on a woolly hat and get into a vat of cold water. repeat the beatings with a hammer, being sure all the while to focus your ki into your shins and concentrate on commanding your cells to heal and strenthen. rub powdered glass all over your legs, paying special attention to the 4th meridian of the liver on the left leg and chant "doof" continually. do this 9 times daily for 2 weeks. then begin kicking trees as often as possible, then light yourself on fire. you will be invincible with perfectly conditioned shins. after that, for you, I'd recommend skipping boulders and moving straight up to a big piece of steel. you can often steal one from a construction site if you are fast and stealthy enough.
then do a search in the Muai Thai forum for the shin conditioning thread like Jeff said.

BTW: it's clear that was sarcasm and you shouldn't beat yourself with a hammer, right?

**ninjandrew** · 08-27-2003, 13:43

Okokok, I found it.

**Jeff Burger** · 08-27-2003, 14:45

I kicked down a banana tree in Thailand...took awhile...easier than most people probably think.

Ever felt a banana tree? They are softer than regular trees.

De Franza...
Darn...why did you put it was sarcasm?
Sarcasm is a Darwin test...its only sarcasm when you realize it.

There is already a thread on shin conditioning.

Jeff

**Shiro_ryuu** · 08-03-2004, 11:33

I would recommend for shin conditioning, NOT kicking anything harder than human, try kicking a heavy bag, or if you can, plant your own banana tree in your yard and kick it when it becomes big enough, but that takes too long.

**Good advisor** · 08-19-2004, 07:30

Originally Posted by Jeff Burger

I kicked down a banana tree in Thailand...took awhile...easier than most people probably think.

Ever felt a banana tree? They are softer than regular trees.

De Franza...
Darn...why did you put it was sarcasm?
Sarcasm is a Darwin test...its only sarcasm when you realize it.

There is already a thread on shin conditioning.

Jeff

Congratulations but what about the tree, any kid from thaialnd can, its so soft they use like a heavy bag, the banna trees and wrap food and things anfd grow fruits the leaves is to wrap over food and things.
By kicking the banna tree have you got permission becuse its scared in Thailand. And I know alot about banna trees then anyone here becuse am from thailand and my dads grow banna trees.

**Good advisor** · 08-19-2004, 07:32

Originally Posted by Shiro_ryuu

I would recommend for shin conditioning, NOT kicking anything harder than human, try kicking a heavy bag, or if you can, plant your own banana tree in your yard and kick it when it becomes big enough, but that takes too long.

My friend, it depends on the soil it won't grow in europe but america is hot enough maybe.

**redqueen290** · 08-21-2004, 21:40

my sensei told me about a guy who would take bamboo poles and grind them it into his shins because it would kill the nerves so that it didn't hurt when he got kicked. Sounds painful though, i think i would just rather suffer the occasional kick to the shin then do that.

**Shiro_ryuu** · 08-25-2004, 08:46

Well if I can grow it in America, maybe I think growing a banana tree to kick it is worth a try.

**Andrew Green** · 08-25-2004, 22:09

Originally Posted by Shiro_ryuu

Well if I can grow it in America, maybe I think growing a banana tree to kick it is worth a try.

Won't grow very well if you keep kicking it

Your shins will become conditioned as a natural result of your training, doing anything that seems like a dumb idea will probably do more harm then good.

**Jeff Burger** · 08-25-2004, 22:47

Spending 10 years to grow a tree so you can kick it down in a hour probably isnt a good idea.

I did the banana tree in Thailand and they are soft and its no biggy.

Slow and steady wins the race.
Your body can only change so much so fast. If you rush it its just wasted pain.
You might be all gung ho in the beginning but after enough pain you subconsciously if not put right you are going to dislike training.

Jeff

fishtaco · 08-26-2004, 03:35

Originally Posted by redqueen290

my sensei told me about a guy who would take bamboo poles and grind them it into his shins because it would kill the nerves so that it didn't hurt when he got kicked. Sounds painful though, i think i would just rather suffer the occasional kick to the shin then do that.

What I heard (not sure if this is true) is a variation of that. I heard some people would get their shin nerves surgically killed off (or removed?) for the same purpose? Is that even possible?

Ben Chang

**Jeff Burger** · 08-26-2004, 10:34

You can feel safe filing that under crap.

Jeff

tofufighting · 09-19-2004, 01:21

This is similar to a post above.. A bottle in vegetable oil (the oil doesn't really matter) and then grind it along your shins. This works. Don't overdue.. Use this along with kicking a punch bag

**Skye** · 09-19-2004, 07:13

Killing your nerves is fairly unlikely, they usually regenerate even after much more severe injuries having bamboo rubbed on them. It's pretty common to roll rattan or bamboo sticks over your shins, or tap them lightly, though.

**Dustin Ferguson** · 02-10-2005, 01:07

I have been training in muay thai for almost a year, my first regular kickboxing match under a wka ref is in about three months i am also trained by the canadian champion. Even though hes not a thai champ he knows his stuff. I tell ya rolling bottles or kicking any tree but a banana tree is stupid. Shin conditioning takes time in fact i practise it everyday. The most lethal way to get your shins conditioned is hitting the thai pads and heavy bags. Hit the thai pads everyday until your shin is black and blue, this helps to get over and take kicks to the legs. Now that i have done this the nerves in my shins have died and now even when i kik things harder then my shin it does not hurt. Thats how thaiboxers take shin kiks to the shins and use there legs to block, that is why they dont feel it. KICKING SOMETHING HARDER THEN YOUR SHIN OR ROLLING GLASS BOTTLES ON YOUR SHIN CREATES BONE DAMAGE, JUST ASK YOUR DOCTOR ABOUT IT!

**De_Franza** · 02-10-2005, 13:12

Originally Posted by Dustin Ferguson

. KICKING SOMETHING HARDER THEN YOUR SHIN OR ROLLING GLASS BOTTLES ON YOUR SHIN CREATES BONE DAMAGE, JUST ASK YOUR DOCTOR ABOUT IT!

no need to shout. and winking doesn't mean it wasn't rude in teh first place.
now, what you say is poppycock. like i said before, here is my foolproof method of shin conditioning, mine are like iron:
first, be sure you can hold a horse stance for at least 4 hours without any breaks. then get in horse stance in a vat of hot water (a kiddle pool works well) and bang your shins with a hammer or bat. about 50 strokes on each shin. be sure to break the skin and suffer as much as possible. then rub in a linament of ginger root, oregano, orange rinds and crack. put on a woolly hat and get into a vat of cold water. repeat the beatings with a hammer, being sure all the while to focus your ki into your shins and concentrate on commanding your cells to heal and strenthen. rub powdered glass all over your legs, paying special attention to the 4th meridian of the liver on the left leg and chant "doof" continually. do this 9 times daily for 2 weeks. then begin kicking trees and phone poles as often as possible, then light yourself on fire. you will be invincible with perfectly conditioned shins. after that, for you, I'd recommend skipping boulders and moving straight up to a big piece of steel. you can often steal one from a construction site if you are fast and stealthy enough.

**Good advisor** · 02-10-2005, 15:40

Hi, Jeff should know this but for the guys who don't a banana trees have layers in North east of thailand they can make us a toy like a horse or in festivals you can striped down the trees with your fingers but is hard because you have to pull it down as well, when you kick somtimes the banana tree have water, and it willregrew itself as well!!

Its just for fun, if you don't have a heavybag,