Shaolin Kung Fu training in China

bparham79 · 05-28-2004, 09:04

Hey guys, as I've stated in my previous post; I am interested in learning Kung Fu and studying the teachings of the Buddha. I have found a website,

http://www.shaolins.com/

that offers foreigners the oppurtunity to study both traditional Kung Fu and Buddhism in China for as long as the student wishes. I am considering it to be a once in a lifetime oppurtunity to pursue my passions. However, its pretty hefty price tag of roughly 4500 USD for first year not including plane ticket, etc. I wanted some opinions on the quality of the training, whether or not this was legit Shaolin Kung Fu, and whether or not anyone has studied MA in China. Is their any other way of learning both traditional Shaolin Kung Fu and studying Buddhism for less money?

Brian Parham

bparham79 · 05-29-2004, 19:51

come on guys, someone throw me a bone!

**Jeff Burger** · 05-30-2004, 08:03

Per forum rules please include your real full name.

Next.....
The monks are fake.
Just Kung Fu guys playing the role.
I work with 2 school is China, check out my webpage.

Jeff

**moogong** · 05-31-2004, 17:13

Originally Posted by Jeff Burger

Per forum rules please include your real full name.

Next.....
The monks are fake.
Just Kung Fu guys playing the role.
I work with 2 school is China, check out my webpage.

Jeff

But Jeff, they have shaved heads and robes! They must be authentic!

**Jeff Burger** · 05-31-2004, 18:09

Im picturing Moderator Cliff Hargrave in his bathrobe and slippers.

Im on to you Cliff.

Jeff

**Cliff Hargrave** · 05-31-2004, 19:01

I don't think I even own a bathrobe.

**Jeff Burger** · 05-31-2004, 19:09

Maybe your just an orange robe away from a succesful bussines.

Jeff

**KogaRae** · 09-29-2005, 13:31

Originally Posted by Jeff Burger

Per forum rules please include your real full name.

Next.....
The monks are fake.
Just Kung Fu guys playing the role.
I work with 2 school is China, check out my webpage.

Jeff

There not fake. you cant say somones beleifs and way of life is fake. there just not 20th century monks.. new aged thats all.

Ray Rivera-

**Jeff Burger** · 09-29-2005, 13:35

They are a fakes, they are frauds it is a scam.

Any other way I can put it?

Jeff

**Sgathak** · 09-29-2005, 14:06

Jeff, dont mind our friend Ray here.

He reminds me of that guy on the FedEx Commercial... You know, the one who thinks they get french benefits?

Maybe Ray can explain to us how a group of Qigong cultivating buddhist monks trained to fight in COMMUNIST CHINA, an officially atheist country, are allowed to run their monastary... when Falun Dafa, a qigong cultivating peaceful buddhist practice is banned and practitioners are harrassed if not arrested?

could it be, maybe, just might be, that the shaolin monks exist soley because they are money makers?

**sean_stonehart** · 09-29-2005, 14:12

Well... Falun Dafa is a money maker... but they keep it to themselves, not sharing.

Plus there's the whole Jesus complex the leader of FD has, but that's another topic.

**Sgathak** · 09-29-2005, 14:31

Originally Posted by sean_stonehart

Well... Falun Dafa is a money maker... but they keep it to themselves, not sharing.

Plus there's the whole Jesus complex the leader of FD has, but that's another topic.

Well I dont know about any Jesus complex, but I dont have any issue with people making money. Its when its made under false pretenses that I object to.

**KogaRae** · 09-29-2005, 14:34

Please you think you know everything.. they can keep it to themselves.. and live that kind of life at home without anyone knowing

**KogaRae** · 09-29-2005, 14:37

just like everyone on this forum, you think you can say what everything is. Please unless you have a Proven fact that there are no such thing as a " real monk " or somone holding knowledge Passed down of koga ryu.. please keep your beleifs to your self.half the ppl on here are " martial artists " meanwile half of you make retarted statements and try to make up facts from things youve read on the internet.. remember people talk **** excuse my french. stories get turned and tossed all over witch leads ppl like you to defend somthing you THINK is a fact. get a grip

**gr455h0pp3r** · 09-29-2005, 14:49

Firstly : Viva La Ressistance!

Secondly; Jeff:
Did you look into the shaolin whilst in china only to discover it was.. as you say ... fake ?

If so id say thats pretty good proof - But what do u mean by just Kung Fu guys playing the role? Are they not buddhists? is the Shaolin Temple just a training ground now or something? I dont understand how theryre there, they practice kung fu, yet theyre fake.. Is the kung fu bogus? whats going on here I must know...

I simply dont know enough about China etc to have a true belief on this I just hear what im told. All the people with experience say its fake. The people who say it arent, are people who I have not seen proven in martial arts, or better yet a beginner. Just a thought...

Sometimes reality can be crushing/interesting..

**Musubi Dojo** · 09-29-2005, 15:32

Originally Posted by KogaRae

just like everyone on this forum, you think you can say what everything is. Please unless you have a Proven fact that there are no such thing as a " real monk " or somone holding knowledge Passed down of koga ryu.. please keep your beleifs to your self.half the ppl on here are " martial artists " meanwile half of you make retarted statements and try to make up facts from things youve read on the internet.. remember people talk **** excuse my french. stories get turned and tossed all over witch leads ppl like you to defend somthing you THINK is a fact. get a grip

Ray,

Ask Jeff how many times he's been to China. Then ask him how he knows about the Shaolin temple. Then apologise and keep your trap shut unless you know what you're talking about.

Cheers
c

**Cameron** · 09-29-2005, 16:04

Originally Posted by KogaRae

just like everyone on this forum, you think you can say what everything is. Please unless you have a Proven fact that there are no such thing as a " real monk " or somone holding knowledge Passed down of koga ryu.. please keep your beleifs to your self.half the ppl on here are " martial artists " meanwile half of you make retarted statements and try to make up facts from things youve read on the internet.. remember people talk **** excuse my french. stories get turned and tossed all over witch leads ppl like you to defend somthing you THINK is a fact. get a grip

Did it ever occur to you that maybe the people on this forum are correcting you because they might in fact know more than you? You whine about lack of "proven fact", yet where is yours? If you don't like people sharing their opinions, leave. No one is forcing you to post here.
By the way, give punctuation and capitalization a shot. It does wonders for your posts.

**Jeff Burger** · 09-29-2005, 18:26

Im going to close this thread.
Monks are fake, been there seen them know some.
Atheletic Kung Fu people...yup.
Shaolin monk...nope.
Making money off ignorant foreigners...yup.

There is proof. The temples were reopened by the government after the succes of Jet Li's film Shaolin Temple. Kung fu practioners are HIRED to pretend they are monks.
Wow lying to make money what a hard concept for some people to grasp. I mean your willing to defy logic and common sense to entertain some romantic fantasy.

IMHO its an embarrasement to CMA.
That people fall for it is an embarrassement to humans.

You either dont get it or you do get it and your just trolling.
Im not going to expalin it any more than that.

Jeff

**Sgathak** · 09-29-2005, 15:10

Ray.. WHAT? Are you really even 19? Im boggled that at an age where you should have graduated from high school, you cant even form a coherent sentence.

Most of the people here telling you that your wrong, are people who have been training longer than you have existed on this planet, who have traveled internationally to train, who speak the languages to read original documents. Basically.. people who have a whole lot more experience than you.

Im starting to see why an instructor would only teach you how to fall... your not mature enough to learn anything more advanced.