Steven seagal aikido??

[freebie614]

ok here is my question,. i know movies are movies and most of the time they are completly fake,. but i know that steven seagal is a blackbelt in aikido,. is the stuff he does in the movies real aikido?,. is it anything like that??,.
side note,. cause it's BADASS!!
Tim O'Banion

[Jack Stay]

ok here is my question,. i know movies are movies and most of the time they are completly fake,. but i know that steven seagal is a blackbelt in aikido,. is the stuff he does in the movies real aikido?,. is it anything like that??,.
side note,. cause it's BADASS!!
Tim O'Banion

Hello Tim:

Steve Seagal is doing real Aikido in his movies, actually more like Aikijitsu.

Steven Seagal studied Koichi Tohei style Aikido in Southern California before moving to Osaka Japan, then teaching at his wife's family dojo, where he was promoted.

Aikido is highly defensive in nature, therefore an attack must be initiated before you can re-direct your opponents energy against him. A lot of the nasty swearing in the movie by Seagal's character was done to instigate an attack by the bad guy so the appropriate Aikido technique could be done.

In real life, when a wrist techniqe is applied, the bad guy does not do a spectacular ukemi (right shoulder roll in the air) but merely crumples to the ground in shrieking agony. A lot of the stunt men in Seagal's movies complained about his unnecessary roughness.

For more detailed information, please visit:

http://www.journaled.com/MA/Aikido/SSeagal/main.htm
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Nidan - Judo
Nidan - Hakko-Ryu Jiu-Jitsu

[Erik]

He does aiki-jitsu or aiki-jiujitsu (forgive the spelling). It's the parent art of aikido.

As for the difference, there's an interesting thread around here about the differences between a "do" and a "jitsu" which seem to describe the differences between aikido and aiki-jitsu reasonably well.

But don't forget - it's just the movies.

Edit: whoops, they guy's text above mine was correct. Sorry.

[Jay Bell]

To clarify something, Seagal does not do Aikijujutsu, as he has never studied Aikijujutsu. His interpretation of Aikido on film is more breaky and less passive, giving it a more "AikiJJ" feel..

[Peter Rehse]

To clarify something, Seagal does not do Aikijujutsu, as he has never studied Aikijujutsu. His interpretation of Aikido on film is more breaky and less passive, giving it a more "AikiJJ" feel..

The difference between Aikido and Aikijujutsu is never so simple.

Steven Seagal actually has a 7th Dan within the Aikikia and taught in Japan for 15 years. Back then he was known more for his size than the quality of his Aikido but still he knows more than a little. I understand while there he also took Dan rankings in Karate, Judo and Kendo - which I have no trouble believing.

Personally I have issues with much of Seagals self serving stories of his time in Japan but I will give him his due.

[_Xi]

Beleive it or not this russian moviestar, isn't half bad...If you go onto limewire or kazaa, you can download some of his videos.

[Dennis Monk]

Beleive it or not this russian moviestar, isn't half bad...If you go onto limewire or kazaa, you can download some of his videos.

What Russian?

[_Xi]

i thought he was russian?

[Mikey Triangles]

i thought he was russian?

Really? He doesn't seem Russian.... anyway, I know that Shihan Steven Seagal does do real Aikido, my teacher trained with him on many occasions.

[_Xi]

I found that video i was talkinga bout in an earlier post

http://tadspot.typepad.com/tadspot/2...ikido_vid.html

Click on SS_Aikido.mpg (video/mpeg Object)

[nythius]

As martial arts actors go, Steven Seagal is about as real as it gets. As mentioned before hand, his main art is aikido, but he also incorporates many skills from this other arts into one badass dirty-as-I-wanna-be system

[nythius]

Oh...p.s...I really don't think Seagal is, or has even trained in Russia. He was born in like Missouri or something.

[JesseThornton]

Beleive it or not this russian moviestar, isn't half bad...If you go onto limewire or kazaa, you can download some of his videos.

I will have to check it out.. Remember you are 15...

[AikidoLady2005]

In the beginning of Above the Law and Hard to Kill, there are a couple of scenes where you will see him doing actual aikido -- Aikikai Aikido and not Aikijujutsu. But other than those couple of scenes it's just Hollywood. In his later movies, his moves are just movie martial arts.

Anne Marie Giri

[J_24]

Correct me if im wrong but i believe Steven Seagal does Takemusu Aikido.
Iv'e head Takemusu sensei say he teaches the Seagal style.

[tonysoprano]

he is the head of the tenshin which he started himself i believe. a for takemusu aiki it aint a real style more a term the founder used for what true aikido was or aikido in its highest levels such as the founders.
Although Iwama Aikido is also called takemusu aikido as that is what osensei would call it in iwama,
Although he does follow isayama(bad spelling) sensie, so maybe he calls his art that, plus he is an old Iwama student so maybe he just uses that name, after all we are all aiming to reach takemusu aiki are we not?

[AikidoLady2005]

If you want to know more about Segal Sensei you need to go to Aikido Journal. Aikido Journal is a very reputable site among the aikido community and is run by Stanley Pranin who is respected for his thorough reseach of the history of Aikido. You can search the forums on Aikido Journal for find out more information about him and how many aikidoka think about him.

Steven Segal's Bio on Aikido Journal

You will find schools that are affilated with his teachings referring to themselves as "Tenshin Aikido." Schools affiliated to Saito Sensei often refer to themselves as "Takemusu Aikido", but the "takemusu" term is not restricted to "Iwama" or Saito Sensei's style of aikido.

Anne Marie Giri

[Aikitech]

Welcome to Budoseek Anne Marie.

Good to see another Aikiweb person here.

[tonysoprano]

You will find schools that are affilated with his teachings referring to themselves as "Tenshin Aikido." Schools affiliated to Saito Sensei often refer to themselves as "Takemusu Aikido", but the "takemusu" term is not restricted to "Iwama" or Saito Sensei's style of aikido.

sorry i did not mean it to sound like the term is only used in Iwama,of course its used all over, i meant to put it that the term was really born in Iwama, according to saito sensei.

[AikidoLady2005]

sorry i did not mean it to sound like the term is only used in Iwama,of course its used all over, i meant to put it that the term was really born in Iwama, according to saito sensei.

No offense, Tony. It just seems like the term here is getting mixed up with "Tenshin Aikido." I hope the folks here asking about his background check out www.aikiweb.com and www.aikidojournal.com They can do some searches on those forums and find a lot more accurate information on Segal Sensei and even hear from those who have practiced under his "style," which I still believe the schools are Aikikai Hombu affiliated and not to any aikijujutsu koryu association.

Anne Marie Giri

(P.S. Hi Aikitech, it's good to see you, too.)