Real World Martial Art

Terco · 08-23-2004, 22:17

what martial art do you guys think is the most "useful" in the real world? I mean like if you get attacked or have to defend yourself without any rules or regulations what ma do you think would fair the best, assuming you have a good knowledge of the art you select. I hope to hear from lots of you guys!

**Aka47** · 08-23-2004, 23:18

Originally Posted by Terco

what martial art do you guys think is the most "useful" in the real world? I mean like if you get attacked or have to defend yourself without any rules or regulations what ma do you think would fair the best, assuming you have a good knowledge of the art you select. I hope to hear from lots of you guys!

Dear Terco,
Every MA is useful in real combat,but dont start a fight, if you still can avoid the fight.Mental,mind, spiritual are some important aspect in fighting.
Every MA need proper training, and sometime one sytle is not suitable for you,and another is suitable for you.
When i was in your age, i choose Karate, because its simple and i like "Kata also Kumite".
I can develop my body and my mind also making a lot of friend, some of my friend chose Jujitsu, some Judo, some Tae Kwondo.
Before you learn something, you must decide what is the purpose learning this, for sport,for your health, for self defence in street, for one on one duel, etc,etc, basicly all MA including all this purpose, but there is some different concept of training.
Regards,

Laksana S

Terco · 08-24-2004, 19:33

For me, It is purely a matter of secuirity because I'm not a big kid. I'm only about 5'3 and so I want to make sure that I'm safe bymyself. I dont want to be able to be pushed around. I do walk away, and plan to do so but I'm small in size and I'm a bit concerned about my safety thats all.

**David Craik** · 08-24-2004, 19:58

One could ask 10 different martial artists and get 10 different answers. All systems are borne of what worked for someone else at a particular time. Many, especially when training is frequent and vigorous, and combined with good physical conditioning, can make you more than capable of handling oneself in most situations.

You are the same height and age as my son, and he does well at the mixed martial art he does. What is your build? Are you thin, stocky, heavy? Sometimes taking a look at your own body offers ideas of arts that could maximize effective use of your body type and possible strengths. And of course, what types of martial art are available where you live?

**Jerusalem** · 09-21-2004, 02:12

my POV on this subject is that the best thing is a practical instructor. Style is meaningless if it is not taught in a practical manner. Also, learning to see beyond what you are taught and what is drilled into you as the "correct" way to do things.

BTW, I'm 5'3" (ish, haven't measured in years...but I'm not getting any taller). I have no worries about working with larger opponents...in fact it has worked to my advantage in several occasions.

**Peter Rehse** · 09-21-2004, 02:44

Paint ball.

**DragonMind** · 09-21-2004, 09:09

Originally Posted by Terco

what martial art do you guys think is the most "useful" in the real world? I mean like if you get attacked or have to defend yourself without any rules or regulations what ma do you think would fair the best, assuming you have a good knowledge of the art you select. I hope to hear from lots of you guys!

Whichever one you will stick with and develop skill at. At the risk of being cliche, it ain't the size of the dog in the fight...

**J.S.T.** · 09-21-2004, 15:44

Dont be afraid. If there is no way out of a life-threatening situation, there are NO rules. I dont know what your skill level is, but I would not try to "use" any "moves". Most people are afraid to hurt someone. What you must remember is that if you are being attacked, and your life is in danger, and you want to defend yourself, you must at least injure your enemy. It takes alot of skill to manipulate and control a violent attacker whose intentions are to maime or kill you. Physically, it is much easier to really hurt them (so long as your conscience will allow). The practice of the art is indispensible, but the willingness to incapacitate is key.

**Erik** · 09-21-2004, 16:12

You'll get different answers from everyone, but I'd suggest Muay Thai or boxing for the standup fight and sport jiu jitsu (with or without the gi depending upon the weather and clothing styles where you live - no gi in So. California, with a gi in Seattle) for the ground game.

Brazilian Jiu Jitsu or Catch Wrestling or Submission Wrestling will do the trick. Find a gym where they train PRIDE or UFC-type fighters and follow their curriculum.

If you want something practical, I would not waste my time with "arts" that spend time on breaking boards or doing forms/katas, dressing up, etc. But that's just me. This is not fighting.

You need to spend almost all your time practicing your techniques against guys who are actively resisting you and trying to beat you. Fighting air is not a great substitute and is tantamount to, in, say math or physics class, having read the text once or twice and yet finding that you haven't a clue as to how to do the problems on the exam.

If you're just dealing with dummies at school, exploding someone's nose with a good jab and/or getting a rear naked choke or guillatine ought to do the trick. There is not likely to be much follow up if there are adults around. This can change as you get older.

You're in Oregon, right? Randy Couture's Straight Blast gym is somewhere near Portland. I'd look there. That's fighting!

Second choices, by the way, would be Judo (the sport I love so much) and/or Hapkido. Make sure it's a Judo club that spends a lot of time on the ground instead of just throwing (which is useful, too, but complicated).

I'm sure some people will argue about how their system will teach you such-and-such, but, as I recall, you wanted to learn to fight, not look nice, imitate animals, or find inner peace.

**Sgathak** · 09-21-2004, 16:47

If you're just dealing with dummies at school, exploding someone's nose with a good jab and/or getting a rear naked choke or guillatine ought to do the trick

In most schools today, it will also get you arrested, expelled, and spending months with court appointed psychiatrists.

**kodanjaclay** · 09-21-2004, 19:41

In a life threatening situation, I prefer a glock. Glock-do tends to end most life threatening situations.

**Dennis Monk** · 09-22-2004, 18:43

Originally Posted by Peter Rehse

Paint ball.

Absolutely!!!
Tippman user here.
And you?

**Peter Rehse** · 09-22-2004, 20:43

Originally Posted by Dennis Monk

Absolutely!!!
Tippman user here.
And you?

Wish it was enough to know what I was using. Had a blast. Couple of times in the woods (I love a good ambush) and once in a studio thingy which was ok for about 20 minutes.

When I move back to the real world I'ld probably do it more often.

**Dennis Monk** · 09-22-2004, 21:56

Originally Posted by Peter Rehse

When I move back to the real world I'ld probably do it more often.

Yeah, it's a blast. Besides the poker, shooting and karate classes my wife sees paintball as just one more way to get me out of her hair for a while.

**Firen** · 09-23-2004, 00:41

what alot of ppl tell me is if your being surrouned by a bunch of thugs, in the end your best defense is to sun.....no joke...don't think MA will save you in any situation...

now is that true? that MA wont be useful in a lot of situations?

Sri Sreed

**Dennis Monk** · 09-23-2004, 06:47

Originally Posted by Firen

what alot of ppl tell me is if your being surrouned by a bunch of thugs, in the end your best defense is to sun.....no joke...don't think MA will save you in any situation...

now is that true? that MA wont be useful in a lot of situations?

Sri Sreed

Huh? Can we get a translation on that please?

**kenkyusha** · 09-23-2004, 13:07

Originally Posted by Chris McLean

All you need are a few moves both standing and on the ground, that you have practiced so well that you can do them against anybody in the world who is standing in front of you.
[snip]

And in that vein, keep in mind that there is a difference between a fight, e.g. people knowingly engaging in a struggle, and self-defense. The primary goal for us non-LEO's should be avoidance. If that fails, anything that allows you to beat-feet quickly... of course, YMMV.

Be well,
Jigme

**Forevergrey** · 10-04-2004, 04:59

Any art can be great for the street, if applied properly. Whether you give somebody a Karate style sidekick to the solar plexus, or a TKD style sidekick to the solar plexus, they'll end up winded. Whether you give somebody a straight Karate punch to the nose, or give somebody a backfist to the nose, they'll end up with shitty vision briefly and be stunned.

All I'm getting at is the fact that any art can be used in the street, if you know what to do with it. If you punch somebody in the eye, besides pissing them off you probably wont do much, punch them in the nose on the other hand and it has a more dramatic effect and gives you more of an opening to play with.

What art you use isn't important, aslong as you know how to use it. That's my $0.02.