HELP!!!! With Kumite

[Shorin-ryu Diciple]

Hello, I am a soon to be purple/white belt in Kyobaiashi shorin-ryu. My friend kris is a muay thai fighter, and he is more advanced than i am, however in a few weeks I am going to spar him and I dont want to lose!! Any tips would be helpful!

[TonyU]

Well first you must sign all your post with your real full name, before the mods see you. You can go to the USER CP and set it up as your signature so you don't have to type it in every time.
Second, Is this a friendly bout or training in you dojo. Either way I would suggest to ask your sensei, as he/she can best help you with strategy and techniques. Or if you Muy Thai friend is just looking to work out together then just practice your techniques slow with him. Work on combinations, followups and angles.
Third, Who's your sensei and where do you train? I'm a Kobayashi ShorinRyu practitioner as well.

[Shorin-ryu Diciple]

My senseis name Is Sensei Kiminski, and I don't know who her instructor was, she said he was either a fifth or eighth dan, I cant remember. Where I study though is Creekside Karate in sultan wa. And this bout that Im doing is in his backyard with no officials with the exeption of his father, who is a blackbelt or somthing like that. Oh, Sultan is about 20 miles East of seattle




Zachary Bert

[TonyU]

My question would be what is the purpose of the bout? What do you hope to gain from it? I suggest to hold off on such endeavors.

[Chris Weisiger]

As for sparring, don't go into it thinking about winning or losing (unless you're in a competitive match). My attitude toward friendly sparring is this: if I'm better than my opponent, then my task is to teach him or her. If I am worse than my opponent, then my task is to learn. Teaching and learning in this case can be both by demonstration and by actual discussion (e.g. "you're dropping your guard every time you go in to kick; remember to keep your hands up").

It also sounds like you'll be sparring with someone who does a different style. In that case, you definitely want to go in expecting to learn something. He won't be using techniques that you expect, which means that this is an excellent opportunity to recognize incoming attacks of all sorts and to correctly react to them.

[Shorin-ryu Diciple]

While im on the subject, I am going to a tournament, this saturday. I would like to know if anyone is going to be there and if so, what compitition.

The tourney is A.K.J.U or somthin' like that and it is being put on by a sensei Weiser in edmonds bible college. Thank you.



Zachary Bert

[Good advisor]

Don't be sacred me myself had an experinced in Muay Thai north east,juijitsu,Karate,kickboxing. Its not the style. And only its kumite don't worry its not a fight in the ring. if his tall make alot of parring weaving and alot of mid kicks and protect yourself and protect your lower body for a low kick. And make sure he can't hold your head or else...in thai words...hanuman slphanpla whoops you up.

So the things is be aggressive but defensive.

[Shorin-ryu Diciple]

another thing... I wasnt paying attention or I heard wrong and it turns out I take matsubaiashi Shorin Ryu... Is there a major difference between this and Kobaiashi?

[black-gi]

NO.1 STAY SAFE! be careful being new that no one gets hurt. NO.2 Don't worry about the out come just do what you gotta do. NO.3 being a thai practitioner he/she will most likely move too much so make sure you don't let he/she set the tempo and provide movement and angles. Good luck.




Jason Bryant

[Good advisor]

If you really going to do a kumite with him yeah,
Firtsly hit and move, stay on your toes weave alot yeah
leand a blow then move, always keep your hands up for
a face puncher, and prepare your combos if he gets near you like for example jab, righ cros roundkick then when your feet hits the flow you can crete trmeendous backfist yeah.

[dojo]

I don't think winning or losing the bout is what you should have in mind. A defeat as well as a winning situation is just another learning stage, a necessary experience
So I'd say go lighthearted and just do your best. Try to see what his good and bad parts are in sparring and try to attack his weak points. Be relaxed and enjoy the experience. Nobody is impossible to defeat. Maybe you lose this time, but win other time. Sparring better partners is great and you shouldn't have a problem with it.
Good luck.

And this was my first post here
Great job. Awesome site

[jakmak52]

You want to make sure that you are physically tougher than your opponent. That you can outlast him, out-endure him. So you need to get your body in incredibly good physical shape. When I say ?in good shape? I don't mean by doing kata, lifting weights, jogging, or that kind of stuff. I'm talking about hard, one-on-one sparring with a partner who is as good as or better than you are.

That's how you become better: intense pressure-type sparring with a tremendous amount of attention devoted to stamina training and working on pacing yourself. Try to spar at a much faster pace than you would in competition.

Another aspect you want to work on is to make sure your opponent can't hit you. You've got to work on your defensive skills, and not necessarily on blocking.

It could be in the area of dealing with a good kicker?being able to move quite a bit on the outside and denying him access to the target. As a last resort if the kick does get close enough to score, you can work some kind of blocking maneuver to make him miss.

You need to keep your opponent from getting set in the first place so he can't fire off first or beat you to the draw. So you figure a way to smother speed. Take the momentum out of his attack.

These are the most important two factors in fighting: aggressiveness and speed. If you can take aggressiveness and speed away from the other man, it gives you the upper hand.

Now prepare your mental skills. You need to come up with a good game plan to neutralize your opponent's advantages. If he's fast you've got to smother his speed. If he's more aggressive you've got to take the momentum out of his attack. If he's got a reach advantage you've got to out-distance him.

If he's bigger you've got to keep him off balance so he can't use his size against you. If he's a good lead-off fighter you've got to force him into a counter-fight. If he's a good counter-fighter you've got to force him to lead off. If he's a good kicker you've got to force him to punch. If he's a good puncher you've got to force him to kick. There are different ways of stripping him of his advantage.

Have fun

[Good advisor]

very good advice there, but it takes practice.

[Toro]

I hope you had good luck.MUya Thai is way more effective for sparring a a kick with the shin hurs more tha anything.Advise trake some muya thai classes and watch it for yoru self.
The best style is not style said Mr Bruce Lee.Being eclectic is the way to go, I think

Hello, I am a soon to be purple/white belt in Kyobaiashi shorin-ryu. My friend kris is a muay thai fighter, and he is more advanced than i am, however in a few weeks I am going to spar him and I dont want to lose!! Any tips would be helpful!

[Toro]

The best style is not style said Bruce lee.People are to worried about which style is better or how to kick high but soem times they forget about conditioning.
Cross tranining is the way to go, I think. Bruce Lee did it back in the 60's.
The questions is: a style is better for what? to kick high? to sparr? to be in shape?
IF you ask which style is better for a street fight,I guess your are going to need more tha Kata.You may know Karate or jujitsu but if your rival knows boxing and basis wrestling, you could get your butt kicked.
Bruce Lee(who had no holds barred fight in the 60's) said to get a tradicional practioner all you need is boxing and wrestling.What can karate do on the floor?
DId you see Mr. Van clief(10 black belt ) whe he foughr Royce Gracie?
He was on the mat for 2 minutes and he could not trow single punch or a single kick.
DId you see Mark Coleman looosing w Nogueira? Nogueira is a master of jujitsu but also is a good puncher of kicker.
The person that tells you: this is the best style and you don't need any more,and I don't vcare if that person is a black belt, I guess that person is jutsa lier.Many schools out there are justa big scum.
I am taking muat thai classes and jujitsu right now.Both of them are perfect.
But I also want to learn karate.
Which style is more circular and fluid ? I am trying to learn a style that is no too linear cause in the street, you always go in circles and move around there coudl be(multiple attackers).
Any advise will be always appreciated.
Thanks to everyone the Goju Ryu,the shotokan, Shorin Ryu etc people. AS long and you train hard and you are honest you will get something out of any style.

[Toro]

HOw you ever recieved a thai kick on the leg? how do you block a thai kick?
Mark Coleman, Sakuraba were destroyed by Nogueira and Silva respectively.
IF Mark and Saku lost* and they are pro's),do you think your advise is going to do any better to the the kid that is trying to get advise for the kumite he is trying to get in?
How you ever seen Marco Ruas, Patrick Smith, Wanlderi Silva?
Do you think any karate guy can defeat them?
To defeat a muya thai figher your will need at least notion about muay thai or jujitsu to take him down.
HOw can you give an opinion pretendind you were a free lance writer with such authority:"move oh yeah,etc" .
How you ever been in a street fights? with all the laws and cops around, I really doubt itHow may fight did you have ?
I hope the person that was going to be in the kumite did not follow your advise.To get ready for a fight you must train, run at least 1 mile per day per every round that you will have( Kem Shamroc) do boxing, shadow boxing, kicking(heavy bag) and sparring.
I see the same tendency of a lot people : this is the best style or this is what you should do.
Haven't your heard the great fighters like Shamrock, Royce Gracie . Bruce Lee saying that cross training is the way to go.
NO Karate, No Jujitsu, NO kung fu. Being eclectic(combine very style possible) is the way to go.
God forbit people don't listen all the " experts" here about how to win a fight.
"You don't win fight in the ring but in the gym" wrote once Bill " Superfoot" Wallace in black belt magazine.

If you really going to do a kumite with him yeah,
Firtsly hit and move, stay on your toes weave alot yeah
leand a blow then move, always keep your hands up for
a face puncher, and prepare your combos if he gets near you like for example jab, righ cros roundkick then when your feet hits the flow you can crete trmeendous backfist yeah.

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[ArtOfAccuracy]

Don't be sacred me myself had an experinced in Muay Thai north east,juijitsu,Karate,kickboxing. Its not the style. And only its kumite don't worry its not a fight in the ring. if his tall make alot of parring weaving and alot of mid kicks and protect yourself and protect your lower body for a low kick. And make sure he can't hold your head or else...in thai words...hanuman slphanpla whoops you up.

So the things is be aggressive but defensive.

pardon my french but where the f*** did you learn english from
"bloody hell"

[Good advisor]

pardon my french but where the f*** did you learn english from
"bloody hell"

From England, I started lerning in Purley Oak primary school at the age of 8, any problem with that? Don't used swear words here no point...

[Dennis Monk]

Although that post is over a month old is was a bit blunt.
Good advisor, I personally have read some of your posts that appeared to be somewhat thought out and written with the intent of others being able to understand the point you were trying to make. Other posts of yours seem somewhat unreadable. I am not an English teacher and I understand if it is not your native language. It may help if you make strides to make your posts more clear and understandable.

As far as cursing goes, yes we have a language filter. In many cases though, it really is not in the best of taste to put the filter to a test.